I have spoken to Andy in the past, and I can say from experience that he is a liar....there isn't one thing that he said to me that has come to fruition.....It's a start up company...they should not be hiring a PHD when they have no money coming in...they should not have 8 full time employees with no money coming in...they should be outsourcing the services they need until they turn a profit...I'm writing these things here because it needs to be said...my position here is long, but this has gone on long enough....Andy, sell this company and retire old man!