it serves absolutely no purpose to predict or speculate ... everything I know has been shared ... I have no idea what J Anderson's intentions are at this point ... Sam told PL a week ago last Monday he was in agreement and would direct JA to send the Addendum to the APA agreement to PL ... But that has yet to happen ... dragon52's contention that the Knobbe patent lien has to be paid before the agreement will be made is the first I have heard of that ... I don't know any more than that ...