Genz, it's either laugh or cry. It's hard not to have random bouts of frustration. The good news is I know when I smell a smolder and where there is smoke, there is usually a fire. Wave has done a spectacular job of planting flags in very key locations in the trusted ecosystem. It sure seems probable there will be significant fruit to harvest at some point in the not too distant future. I have used both hardware and software encryption and hardware is a no-brainer. I have used RSA tokens and in my opinion, they stink. The support layer that Wave brings to enable and maximize the return on some very good embedded solutions is proven. Selling hardware + software is obviously a very difficult task, but when the ROI is worthy, it should only be a matter of time before tangible progress is more evident to everyone with a name other than Awk. I have no doubt we will see a few more outbreaks of WIRBRS before that time. You never know when it will strike...