You e-mailed Design 1st and within 5 minutes Andrew is personally calling you. He voluntarily told you over the phone the WHOLE situation which you say you can not post. Do I assume you are his lawyer then?
If Andrew explained this just once himself publically, we wouldn't need 100+ posters calling him and talking for an hour each.
I am convinced however of the following: Again, all is IMO only! 1. Design 1st is working with Robert's company. 2. There is a bench top unit showing the technology. 3. UL is testing a device for consumer safety. 4. A WDRP water heater for my shower will not be available for sale this Christmas.