Garick: They do not have a smelter on site (they may be using their lab to make small dore bars, or in one pr they said they were sending it off site. They have a conditional use permit to construct a smelter or refinery but it is NOT constructed. As to that refinery in the middle east. If you have read about it, you have not read very much because there is not much information on it. No list of clients, no news reports, only a web site that I can find. What would be news is a report of them sending all the concentrate over to them, but if they are going to build an onsite smelter capable of making 40 lb dore bars then they probably will not be sending the concentrates? The problem with all the talk on this board, is while there may be some good things to say, people are pumping it up with things that are not true which results in false expectations. Geomine