brainlessone, The Kurds have lived where they are now for quite a while. They probably have the best claim to have their own state of any "stateless" indigenous peoples on this planet. Richard asked me for an example of how we today commit atrocities like Dresden. It has taken us many years but what we have done to these poor people is far worse. If what was done to the Kurds was done to America I can assure you that the terrorism done by American "Freedom Fighters" would be incalculable.