If you know the gelmons want to talk to me, and know they will give me the O/S, then you must know the figure yourself. It's unfortunate you won't adjust it. What I want is the gag lifted off the TA so that everyone who wishes can confirm it with a third party. I think that is fair since I don't trust a word either of them say. We've all read the same PRs that never amount to anything, their spoken word is even less accurate. I have figured the O/S to be around 3 billion from reading the filings, watching the volume, and doing the math. Anyone who has been doing this for any length of time would agree.