hitmer, excellent points. Those of us who believe in NVEI for a variety of reasons, some reasons may be valid and some are based purely on hope, "read between the lines" and see exactly what you wrote in your message. We have no solid proof to back up our reasoning but when we connect the dots (lots of metaphors used here, huh?), we see a successful venture. Those that doubt too much will not see the vision. Sounds a little like religion, doesn't it? As with religion, time will tell.