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Re: ergo sum post# 2259

Thursday, 10/24/2002 5:55:16 PM

Thursday, October 24, 2002 5:55:16 PM

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So, of all the people that are employed at a job that pays an hourly wage a mere 3.1% make the minimum wage (or less).

Of these, according to the data you cited, 1,378 of the 2,238 are employed on a PART-TIME basis, meaning that barely 1% of the total population employed at an hourly wage are working FULL TIME at a job that pays the minimum wage (or less).

As a result you have concluded that an increase in the minimum wage is necessary. Again I ask why? To raise the percentage of persons employed at (or below) the minimum wage?

I propose the following, commission one of those liberal think tanks to investigate this 1% of the working a full time job for the minimum wage (or less) and determine *WHY* they are working there for so low a pay.

Is it because they cannot get a better job? Lack the education? Lack the motivation?
Is it because no higher paying jobs are available? Is the area economically challenged? Are these people spread out all over the place? or are they grouped in certain areas?
Have we determined the legal status if these individuals? Are they illegal immigrants? Convicted felons? Misguided social workers?
As an example, what is the going rate for working in a soup kitchen? Surely on their limited budgets they aren't paying above the minimum wage! and I'm certain the local authorities will insist that SOMEONE on staff HAS to be a paid worker RESPONSIBLE for all of those persons performing community service!
I realize that we are discussing 853,000 (according to the data you provide) real people here (at least I hope they are real!). that they have lives and challenges all their own. I honestly believe that there is help for those of them that truly want it. As for the rest...the help is there.

Funny how you present numbers that prove an old marketing axiom. "No matter what you do, 3% of the people won't buy it...ever."

I am more than happy to help someone that wants to make something more of their life, and have little or no time for those simply looking for a handout.

As it stands now the minimum wage is a government handout at the expense of the business community. It serves no purpose beyond it's intended one. Gaining votes for politicians in an election year.

BTW, the civil war was fought over the issue of Individual States rights vs the rights of the Federal Government. The States lost. Pray that we never have a civil war over the rights of the Individual vs the Federal Government, or that if we do...the Feds don't win.

I've found this discussion to be most invigorating, if not enlightening. It is most noteworthy that your are a rarity among so called "liberals". Most tuck tail and run when faced with a well armed conservative (pun intended). I wish you well.



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