Alan Treff info room 8/9/10
This is so typical of Treff never wanting to take responsibility for anything he said. Xers called him out with emails to Hodges about his PalTalk statements. Like a little kid with his hands caught in the cookie jar, Treff requested that they not rat him out anymore because, "it became an issue and may make the process more difficult". Now how the heck would Treff making an azz of himself delay payments? Too freaking funny!
The Treff comedy hour!
10:50 PM) very_tired15: Hey, I have to as, a favor. Please do not take information I share with these rooms and write Al Hodges emails making an issue abnout what I write. I try to be very positive, but cautious as to specifics as to what is going on. Writing Al to give him a bad time only makes the process of getting paid more difficult.
(10:50 PM) very_tired15: I did not speak with him tonight
(10:53 PM) very_tired15: I know most people do not, but some have and it has become enough of anissue with Al that he mentioned it to me. I like to come into the rooms and be supportive and share what little info I know, but I do not want to do it to cause Al problems.
(10:53 PM) very_tired15: I do not have personal knowledge about the banks and the 72 hour period - although anything of that nature is certainly possible.
(10:53 PM) jacbert: Alan..... you have to realize... that most of the shareholders in here have the best interest of other shareholders in mind. But,, there are others in this and other room that have different agendas.... and will act on your request in the opposite manner to perpetuate their cause....
(10:54 PM) very_tired15: You are right Jack.. but Al generally knows who is real and who is not. It is when the real SH contact him and press him that it becomes an issue.
(10:55 PM) very_tired15: My message on FB was a few days ago. I believe it to be truth, as per the indicators we are seeing. Again, the certainty of any time or amount is beyond my capacity to guage.
(10:57 PM) very_tired15: Another thing is that guy Tom Miller. He made several misrepresentations about what I said to him and that he was something he was not. Mr. Miller caused one heck of a shareholder ruckus and it appears to be put on with ulterior motives. Perhaps that is why he would only go into Tuscan's room to share the info.
(11:01 PM) mineralsgalore: Isn't that 72 hours just another rumor?
(11:01 PM) very_tired15: The 72 hour hold is certainly possible. I am not personally familiar with federal banking laws that would permit such a hold,. but I have seen holds on large amounts of money in the past so it would not surprise me in the present. THink of how much interest 72 hours would bring on $3.87T
(11:04 PM) very_tired15: I did not hear if the BIS backed off or not. I recently emailed Al to ask him about that issue. I will likely receieve a response tomorrow.
(11:04 PM) very_tired15: I have really only heard much of what is going aroundon the boards.
(11:05 PM) flips_2: IMO no announcement will come out, packets will be mailed out and we will just recieve them with full instructions maybe by Wed, so that is reason for rumor....AIMO
(11:05 PM) very_tired15: could well be the case Flip
(11:10 PM) very_tired15: Lucy may be correct, I really don't know.. only guessing
(11:10 PM) crunchyfrogs: CMKX-baby.....actually I was speaking earlier and said it would be nice if Al could just let us know the suit had been dropped and that details would come later. This was Lucy's response in the scroll...
(6:56 PM) LUCY_N_DA_SKY1: suit is dismissed crunchy
(11:11 PM) very_tired15: Dismissed, but still alive as the plaintiffs have "leave to amend"
(11:12 PM) very_tired15: Just means that the plaintiffs have to add a few facts/allegations to make the complaint itself more complete
(11:13 PM) very_tired15: No.. not dismissed without prejudice... the motion to dismiss was sustained with leave to amend. There is a tachnical difference
(11:13 PM) very_tired15: technical
(11:14 PM) very_tired15: I am confident that Pasadena is doing its job... try not to worry... I would find it more than difficult to believe that Al is doing anything contrary to our interests of getting paid as soon as possible.
(11:13 PM) blindco307_2: so allen will that happen will it be with more facts and made more complete?
(11:16 PM) very_tired15: blindco, a cause of action in a complaint is like the legs on a table. It has 4 legs (4 elements to a cause of action - like fraud) and each leg is an necessary element for the cause of action to survive, if the plaintiffs left one fact out that was necessary for a cause of action, it is like the table only having 3 legs - it can not stand in its current condition
(11:16 PM) very_tired15: fraud actually has 5
(11:18 PM) very_tired15: For example, a negligence cause of action has these 4 elements: 1. There has to be a duty; 2. Theere has to be a breach of that duty; 3. There has to be damages; and 4, those damages must have been CAUSED by the breach of the duty. If you give facts that don't support all of those necessary elements, the case can be tossed out
(11:18 PM) very_tired15: because it was not adequately pled
(11:18 PM) coachjack12: Allan any idea where this came from- rumor is cmkx money is transfered to a bank who put a 72 hour hold on the funds
(11:19 PM) very_tired15: no udea coach
(11:19 PM) very_tired15: idea
(11:19 PM) Chopperguy: Alan, IYO was it done intentionally?
(11:20 PM) very_tired15: Maybe or maybe not... it likely was because now, the judge wants more specific facts.. perhaps like names and dates.. I am certain that thos ein power and banking do not want their names all over the place
(11:21 PM) very_tired15: perhaps the first compaint was a shot over the bow. I do not know.. only speculating
(11:21 PM) very_tired15: Al has a specific strategy and he is very good at what he does
(11:21 PM) Chopperguy: ty
(11:21 PM) very_tired15: i am certain that there are no accidents in this matter
(11:21 PM) ksp11: yes , since Al obviously was aware the plea was insuficient
(11:22 PM) very_tired15: in any case, I need to run.. be well all and have a good evening'
(11:22 PM) Fasttrackermo: thank you Allen
(11:22 PM) very_tired15: u bet
(11:23 PM) *** very_tired15 has left the room ***
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