bruce: but that just it, we all think 'at the time' that its a good buy in price. i got in at .03 ! avg downt to .013 now its always a crap shoot. we can all say what could have been, etc. im like 'gamelover'... just dont want to be as far down and get out of this game for good. it rots man. and yeah.. people getting all hyped up over the .0025's comin, ugh. glta