right on BnB -- even CIC "I loath the military" Clinton got a Leather Jacket on visiting a carrier But the fighter pilot GWB got the heartfelt applauds from every visit to a military base to praise their commitment to defend the USA something the present CIC cannot understand (and everyone of those applauding could imagine what it takes to strap on a single pilot supersonic jet fighter bomber at midnight - even if in TX) just saying -- BHO would be a different man if he had ever done such a deed