Monday, November 29, 2004 9:37:30 AM
"Chechnya borders Georgia, and Georgia, like Azerbaidjan, is on the fast track to join NATO. There are already hundreds of US troops in Georgia, training the local forces. They are there for two reasons: first, to protect the US-built Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline; secondly – and this follows from the first – to assist Georgia in recuperating her two secessionist territories, South Ossetia and Abkhazia. It will not do to have Russia anywhere close to the pipeline, and she has troops in both these areas. Pushing Russia comprehensively out of the Caucasus, and humiliating her, requires victory for the Chechens. An independent Chechnya may also be the prelude to the longer-term break-up of Russia herself: the CIA predicted that oil-rich Siberia might escape Moscow's control in its report, Global Trends 2015, published in April."
The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline depends on Kazakhstan oil. When oil starts flowing next year from Kazakhstan, China will get 10 million tonnes a year. This will be doubled in 2011.
In fact, the pipeline can be extended to Kazakhstan's even richer oil fields in the Caspian Sea area.
Now there is a massive opposition taking shape in Kazakhstan which could change everything including cutting China off. Guess who.
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The Yushchenko-Timoshenko forces want to align with Georgia, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Moldova (the other nations in the GUUAM configuration of junior league NATO aspirants) in erecting a ring of iron around Putin and the former Soviet Union. U.S. troops are already in Georgia, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan. How long before they are in Kiev, training "President" Yushchenko's NATO-ized military in the use of American equipment – and advising a spiffed-up Ukrainian military within striking distance of the Kremlin?
"This [GUUAM] alliance lies "strategically at the hub of the Caspian oil and gas wealth, with Moldava and the Ukraine offering [pipeline] export routes to the West.
"Dominated by Anglo-American oil interests, the formation of GUUAM ultimately purports to exclude Russia from the oil and gas deposits in the Caspian area, as well as isolating Moscow politically [my emphasis-LC]."
"In the context of GUUAM and the SRS, Washington has encouraged the formation of pro-US client states strategically located along oil pipeline routes. The latter are to be "protected" by NATO under GUUAM and various other military cooperation agreements. The hidden agenda is to eventually cut the Russians off altogether from the Caspian oil and gas fields [my emphasis-LC].
"With a view to weakening Moscow's control over Caspian oil, several alternative pipeline routes have been envisaged. The Baku-Supsa pipeline—inaugurated in 1999 during the War in Yugoslavia and protected military by GUUAM—totally bypasses Russian territory. The oil is transported by pipeline from Baku to the Georgian port of Supsa, where it is shipped by tanker to the Pivdenny terminal near Odessa in the Ukraine. Both Georgia and Ukraine are part of the GUUAM military alliance. This Pivdenny terminal has been financed—in agreement with the (neo-fascist) government of President Leonid Kuchna—by Western loans."
Note NATO is to be used to protect the pipelines or Anglo-American oil interests.
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I fear for Russia. I have always said many of the moves Putin is criticized for are in fact defensive.
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"For Ukraine, the central issues are the future character of the CIS and freer access to energy sources, which would lessen Ukraine's dependence on Russia.
"Accordingly, Ukraine has supported Georgia's efforts to become the westward route for Azeri oil exports. Ukraine has also collaborated with Turkey in order to weaken Russian influence in the Black Sea and has supported Turkish efforts to direct oil flows from Central Asia to Turkish terminals.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112604Chin/112604chin.html
Putin will pay a state visit to Turkey between December 5th and 6th. He will become the first Russian president paying a state visit to Turkey after 32 years. The last time Put attempted to go to Turkey Bush slaughtered the Russian school children at Beslan and he had to postpone.
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Yours was a good but depressing post.
I thank you for bringing it here.
-Am
The Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan pipeline depends on Kazakhstan oil. When oil starts flowing next year from Kazakhstan, China will get 10 million tonnes a year. This will be doubled in 2011.
In fact, the pipeline can be extended to Kazakhstan's even richer oil fields in the Caspian Sea area.
Now there is a massive opposition taking shape in Kazakhstan which could change everything including cutting China off. Guess who.
#msg-4673003
The Yushchenko-Timoshenko forces want to align with Georgia, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan, and Moldova (the other nations in the GUUAM configuration of junior league NATO aspirants) in erecting a ring of iron around Putin and the former Soviet Union. U.S. troops are already in Georgia, Uzbekistan, and Kyrgyzstan. How long before they are in Kiev, training "President" Yushchenko's NATO-ized military in the use of American equipment – and advising a spiffed-up Ukrainian military within striking distance of the Kremlin?
"This [GUUAM] alliance lies "strategically at the hub of the Caspian oil and gas wealth, with Moldava and the Ukraine offering [pipeline] export routes to the West.
"Dominated by Anglo-American oil interests, the formation of GUUAM ultimately purports to exclude Russia from the oil and gas deposits in the Caspian area, as well as isolating Moscow politically [my emphasis-LC]."
"In the context of GUUAM and the SRS, Washington has encouraged the formation of pro-US client states strategically located along oil pipeline routes. The latter are to be "protected" by NATO under GUUAM and various other military cooperation agreements. The hidden agenda is to eventually cut the Russians off altogether from the Caspian oil and gas fields [my emphasis-LC].
"With a view to weakening Moscow's control over Caspian oil, several alternative pipeline routes have been envisaged. The Baku-Supsa pipeline—inaugurated in 1999 during the War in Yugoslavia and protected military by GUUAM—totally bypasses Russian territory. The oil is transported by pipeline from Baku to the Georgian port of Supsa, where it is shipped by tanker to the Pivdenny terminal near Odessa in the Ukraine. Both Georgia and Ukraine are part of the GUUAM military alliance. This Pivdenny terminal has been financed—in agreement with the (neo-fascist) government of President Leonid Kuchna—by Western loans."
Note NATO is to be used to protect the pipelines or Anglo-American oil interests.
#msg-4665453
I fear for Russia. I have always said many of the moves Putin is criticized for are in fact defensive.
#msg-4661342
"For Ukraine, the central issues are the future character of the CIS and freer access to energy sources, which would lessen Ukraine's dependence on Russia.
"Accordingly, Ukraine has supported Georgia's efforts to become the westward route for Azeri oil exports. Ukraine has also collaborated with Turkey in order to weaken Russian influence in the Black Sea and has supported Turkish efforts to direct oil flows from Central Asia to Turkish terminals.
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/112604Chin/112604chin.html
Putin will pay a state visit to Turkey between December 5th and 6th. He will become the first Russian president paying a state visit to Turkey after 32 years. The last time Put attempted to go to Turkey Bush slaughtered the Russian school children at Beslan and he had to postpone.
#msg-4655654
Yours was a good but depressing post.
I thank you for bringing it here.
-Am
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