Friday, November 26, 2004 10:06:39 AM
Comments on Ukraine, Russia etc.
Given the intense interest of the United States and Europe in the Ukrainian election and their obvious backing of Yushchenko,
considering the remarks of US Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz who emphatically states that "Our objective of a Europe whole and free will not be complete until Ukraine is a full pledged member of Europe. - WARSAW (AFP) Oct 05, 2004,
http://www.spacewar.com/2004/041005190408.5x58wjyp.html
reflecting on the advantages a candidate like Yushchenko enjoys who is backed by the most powerful nation on earth who has to have been pouring massive amounts of time, money and preparation behind his campaign,
counting the number of countries in which the United States has installed their ‘candidate’ including Afghanistan, Georgia, probably Ukraine, trying for Iraq, etc.,
realizing that as each nation falls prey to these pseudo democracies we march closer to a world war that will by far dwarf all others,
knowing that it is the freedom that democracy bestows that best allows a foreign country to steal a nation's assets through the same privatization that was shoved on Russia and that we plan to confer on Iraq even mulling an annual cash payout for all Iraqis if they would privatize their oil and gas sector,
#msg-1197170
#msg-1869189
it would be no surprise to see Yushchenko become Prime Minister.
And it should be no surprise as to why Putin said the Kremlin should name regional governors, who would then be confirmed by local parliaments instead of being elected by a popular vote. The United States in my opinion will attack Russia through its elected officials. This is what we do. It is not for nothing that President Vladimir Putin’s party is called United Russia. According to the CIA, some of Russia’s eastern regions are so rich in natural resources such as oil and gas that they will opt to break away from Moscow, which they have long accused of poor governance.
http://www.rusnet.nl/news/2004/04/30/currentaffairs02.shtml
President Putin has admitted he puts the strength of the state above even democracy. He understands that democracy is being used by foreign countries to further guarantee the poverty of his people.
I submit that regional governors are or could fall easily under the influence of the CIA. Elected governors are a golden opportunity for the United States to gain control of certain provinces and undermine the integrity of Russia as the CIA has predicted.
I believe that Putin is well aware of the danger of U.S. manipulated elections in oil rich Russian provinces.
I believe that Putin had not choice but to stop the election process for regional governors. To not do so would leave Russia vulnerable to disintegration.
In fact Putin did not make any marked moves against Russian democracy until he was forced to at the approximate time of the arrest of Khordorkosky.
The U.S./Khodorkoysky incident was in reality an invasion attempt by the United States.
Putin referring to the United States said "Some would like to cut a juicy piece of our pie. Others help them," he said. "Terrorism is just one instrument they use."
One way in which we were to cut a piece of their pie may be glimpsed in the Khodorkoysky affair. A close scrutiny shows the Khodorkoysky case was in essence a means by which the United States could invade Russia by gaining not only control of Yukos but a foothold in their Duma.
Another problem connected to YUKOS—the issue of buying seats in the Duma—has been noticeably less discussed. YUKOS is accused of not limiting its lobbying to “one-time” deals, but generously “sponsoring” various parties to cobble together its own Duma “faction.” Other oligarchs do similar things, but not on the same scale as YUKOS.
http://www.gateway2russia.com/st/art_164082.php
This is how generously they were sponsoring.
The Russian president and the former secret police members who now dominate his staff struck at Khodorkovsky when it became clear that the billionaire was preparing to spend $100 million to win a large bloc of seats in Duma elections next month and eventually to run for the presidency himself.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/147219_hoagland7.html
Exxon Mobil originally meant to buy a controlling interest in Yukos, only later did they back down to 40%.
Therefore the merger in its original intent would have given Exxon Mobil, a foreign entity, seats in Duma.
The sale of Yukos shares to a U.S. company would entail that representatives of American big business would be sitting in the Russian parliament. Russia would cede its sovereignty if it allowed transfer of strategic assets to corporations that are, in turn, closely linked to foreign governments. This would be like having a representative of Russian business in the U.S. congress voting on or blocking key legislation relating to the national interest. Knowing that Khodorkovsky has been siphoning profits from the impoverished Russian people under the umbrella of privatization compliments of democracy and is associated with not only the Carlyle Group but the elder Bush and others it becomes painfully obvious that his allegiance is with the United States and not Russia yet he would be president. This is betrayal, he’s lucky Putin does not try him for treason.
Khodorkovsky was plotting against his own country.
The sovereignty of Russia was and is being challenged, a challenge Putin can not ignore.
-Am
Given the intense interest of the United States and Europe in the Ukrainian election and their obvious backing of Yushchenko,
considering the remarks of US Deputy Defence Secretary Paul Wolfowitz who emphatically states that "Our objective of a Europe whole and free will not be complete until Ukraine is a full pledged member of Europe. - WARSAW (AFP) Oct 05, 2004,
http://www.spacewar.com/2004/041005190408.5x58wjyp.html
reflecting on the advantages a candidate like Yushchenko enjoys who is backed by the most powerful nation on earth who has to have been pouring massive amounts of time, money and preparation behind his campaign,
counting the number of countries in which the United States has installed their ‘candidate’ including Afghanistan, Georgia, probably Ukraine, trying for Iraq, etc.,
realizing that as each nation falls prey to these pseudo democracies we march closer to a world war that will by far dwarf all others,
knowing that it is the freedom that democracy bestows that best allows a foreign country to steal a nation's assets through the same privatization that was shoved on Russia and that we plan to confer on Iraq even mulling an annual cash payout for all Iraqis if they would privatize their oil and gas sector,
#msg-1197170
#msg-1869189
it would be no surprise to see Yushchenko become Prime Minister.
And it should be no surprise as to why Putin said the Kremlin should name regional governors, who would then be confirmed by local parliaments instead of being elected by a popular vote. The United States in my opinion will attack Russia through its elected officials. This is what we do. It is not for nothing that President Vladimir Putin’s party is called United Russia. According to the CIA, some of Russia’s eastern regions are so rich in natural resources such as oil and gas that they will opt to break away from Moscow, which they have long accused of poor governance.
http://www.rusnet.nl/news/2004/04/30/currentaffairs02.shtml
President Putin has admitted he puts the strength of the state above even democracy. He understands that democracy is being used by foreign countries to further guarantee the poverty of his people.
I submit that regional governors are or could fall easily under the influence of the CIA. Elected governors are a golden opportunity for the United States to gain control of certain provinces and undermine the integrity of Russia as the CIA has predicted.
I believe that Putin is well aware of the danger of U.S. manipulated elections in oil rich Russian provinces.
I believe that Putin had not choice but to stop the election process for regional governors. To not do so would leave Russia vulnerable to disintegration.
In fact Putin did not make any marked moves against Russian democracy until he was forced to at the approximate time of the arrest of Khordorkosky.
The U.S./Khodorkoysky incident was in reality an invasion attempt by the United States.
Putin referring to the United States said "Some would like to cut a juicy piece of our pie. Others help them," he said. "Terrorism is just one instrument they use."
One way in which we were to cut a piece of their pie may be glimpsed in the Khodorkoysky affair. A close scrutiny shows the Khodorkoysky case was in essence a means by which the United States could invade Russia by gaining not only control of Yukos but a foothold in their Duma.
Another problem connected to YUKOS—the issue of buying seats in the Duma—has been noticeably less discussed. YUKOS is accused of not limiting its lobbying to “one-time” deals, but generously “sponsoring” various parties to cobble together its own Duma “faction.” Other oligarchs do similar things, but not on the same scale as YUKOS.
http://www.gateway2russia.com/st/art_164082.php
This is how generously they were sponsoring.
The Russian president and the former secret police members who now dominate his staff struck at Khodorkovsky when it became clear that the billionaire was preparing to spend $100 million to win a large bloc of seats in Duma elections next month and eventually to run for the presidency himself.
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/147219_hoagland7.html
Exxon Mobil originally meant to buy a controlling interest in Yukos, only later did they back down to 40%.
Therefore the merger in its original intent would have given Exxon Mobil, a foreign entity, seats in Duma.
The sale of Yukos shares to a U.S. company would entail that representatives of American big business would be sitting in the Russian parliament. Russia would cede its sovereignty if it allowed transfer of strategic assets to corporations that are, in turn, closely linked to foreign governments. This would be like having a representative of Russian business in the U.S. congress voting on or blocking key legislation relating to the national interest. Knowing that Khodorkovsky has been siphoning profits from the impoverished Russian people under the umbrella of privatization compliments of democracy and is associated with not only the Carlyle Group but the elder Bush and others it becomes painfully obvious that his allegiance is with the United States and not Russia yet he would be president. This is betrayal, he’s lucky Putin does not try him for treason.
Khodorkovsky was plotting against his own country.
The sovereignty of Russia was and is being challenged, a challenge Putin can not ignore.
-Am
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