Foam, I've heard the comments that you are refering to. Wave stated that make more money selling the software directly to the PCoems rather than bundling with the chip guy. But, we've also heard that most enterprises want a clean image. If that is the case the customer base is suddenly a lot smaller. I'm sure there is answer. In all of this, you've got Wave saying they are in the right place and right time, they can see the millions of volumes coming from the oems etc.