Friday, December 11, 2009 7:28:57 PM
I'll comment on at least a couple of things. 1st of all....i dont like using the word "christian"...because there are millions of "christians" in the world that are on their way to hell because they have never surrendered them selves to Jesus as Lord and Savior. Yes...they may try and live good lives..they may go to church....they may think they prayed some kind of a prayer of forgiveness...But in reality...they went right back to living as they always had. Being a "christian"...claiming to be a "christian"...does not mean that a person has repented their sins and truly ask Jesus for forgiveness and became a follower of Jesus as a new creation....a Born Again believer.
Matthew 7:21-23
(New International Version)
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
Next...where you say...
"There are many writings of Jesus that were purposely left out of the 'bible'"
... i will not take the time to make a statement on that but im pretty sure that there is no human that can know if and when and why....anything was purposely left out of the Bible. The Bible is the COMPLETE word of God. God has never left out or forgot anything.
As far as my faith being any better...or more than anyone elses...id never think that....That to me would be just as the Pharisees and Sadducees that Jesus warned us about. They thinking they so much better and Holy than everyone else.
Matthew 23:1-7
(New International Version)
1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5"Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them 'Rabbi.'
Also with this statement of yours....
yet christianity seems to arrogantly believe that gods love is 'conditional', meaning, if you dont believe in god as the bible says, then you will go to hell.
God..the Great "I AM"...is a God of love...but HE is also a God of wrath! God gives us an unconditional love...HE loves ALL of us ALWAYS...just as i was saying in my last post. I often "sorta" compair Gods love to that of a pet dog....no matter if you yell at the dog....dont feed it....treat it badly....that dog is always there with love in its eyes waiting to greet you and love you no matter what you have done to it...that is unconditional love...just as with our Father God...no matter how much we curse him as unbelievers...ignore him..turn our back on him....he is ALWAYS there willing to forgive us if we will just ask from the heart! And please believe me...if we do not live as the Bible speaks to us thru the Holy Spirit...then we are not saved and we are going to hell! We are saved by the grace of God...and the blood of Jesus....and if a person is saved..they have the Holy Spirit living in them and they WILL live as the Bible...the word of God...commands and guides and directs them!
Also as i was saying in my last post....God dont send...or damn...or banish anyone to "a eternal life to pain and suffering with no hope of forgiveness?"...as you state in your last question to me.
God lets each of us choose our eternal destination. Man is filled with a sin filled nature. There is no saving ourselves...There is nothing we can do....we can not live or be good enough....God knew that in our wicked hearts there was nothing we could do to change. So...he sent his son Jesus to die on the cross...to shed his blood for all of us....and for those of us that decides to turn to Jesus....to ask forgiveness..to follow and live for HIM....By the saving grace of God we are saved from ourselves...satan...the world...and given a home in heaven!
Most parents of course would not want or wish anything bad to happen to their children...God as well dont want anything bad to happen to his children.....BUT...God sent his SON...JESUS...to earth to die for us...God did his part....and if any person dont see the love...the grace...the mercy..in all that....to see that God gave his only begotten SON to die so that we might live FOREVER....thats not his fault. Thats that whole free will thing i was talking about before.
John 3:16-17
(New International Version)
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
If i had a kid...and i told him or her not to pour gasoline on a fire to get it going or they might be killed...and i locked the gas in a shed...they go and get the door open and they went ahead and poured the gas and there was an explosion and that child was killed. What has happened? Did i send that child to their grave?...or...did i warn them...did i provide a means to protect or save them...but they used their free will and did the act anyway and died a pain filled death! Now im not sure just how good of an analogy that is...but its the best i can do right now....LOL.
John 14:6
(New International Version)
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
There is only one God...there is only one way to heaven...everything else is man depending upon himself and that leads straight to hell
I pray that you find Jesus as Lord and Savior....Stick around...read and listen to some messages...you might just start to hear Jesus tugging at your heart!
Matthew 7:21-23
(New International Version)
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
Next...where you say...
"There are many writings of Jesus that were purposely left out of the 'bible'"
... i will not take the time to make a statement on that but im pretty sure that there is no human that can know if and when and why....anything was purposely left out of the Bible. The Bible is the COMPLETE word of God. God has never left out or forgot anything.
As far as my faith being any better...or more than anyone elses...id never think that....That to me would be just as the Pharisees and Sadducees that Jesus warned us about. They thinking they so much better and Holy than everyone else.
Matthew 23:1-7
(New International Version)
1Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2"The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat. 3So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. 4They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
5"Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries[a] wide and the tassels on their garments long; 6they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; 7they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them 'Rabbi.'
Also with this statement of yours....
yet christianity seems to arrogantly believe that gods love is 'conditional', meaning, if you dont believe in god as the bible says, then you will go to hell.
God..the Great "I AM"...is a God of love...but HE is also a God of wrath! God gives us an unconditional love...HE loves ALL of us ALWAYS...just as i was saying in my last post. I often "sorta" compair Gods love to that of a pet dog....no matter if you yell at the dog....dont feed it....treat it badly....that dog is always there with love in its eyes waiting to greet you and love you no matter what you have done to it...that is unconditional love...just as with our Father God...no matter how much we curse him as unbelievers...ignore him..turn our back on him....he is ALWAYS there willing to forgive us if we will just ask from the heart! And please believe me...if we do not live as the Bible speaks to us thru the Holy Spirit...then we are not saved and we are going to hell! We are saved by the grace of God...and the blood of Jesus....and if a person is saved..they have the Holy Spirit living in them and they WILL live as the Bible...the word of God...commands and guides and directs them!
Also as i was saying in my last post....God dont send...or damn...or banish anyone to "a eternal life to pain and suffering with no hope of forgiveness?"...as you state in your last question to me.
God lets each of us choose our eternal destination. Man is filled with a sin filled nature. There is no saving ourselves...There is nothing we can do....we can not live or be good enough....God knew that in our wicked hearts there was nothing we could do to change. So...he sent his son Jesus to die on the cross...to shed his blood for all of us....and for those of us that decides to turn to Jesus....to ask forgiveness..to follow and live for HIM....By the saving grace of God we are saved from ourselves...satan...the world...and given a home in heaven!
Most parents of course would not want or wish anything bad to happen to their children...God as well dont want anything bad to happen to his children.....BUT...God sent his SON...JESUS...to earth to die for us...God did his part....and if any person dont see the love...the grace...the mercy..in all that....to see that God gave his only begotten SON to die so that we might live FOREVER....thats not his fault. Thats that whole free will thing i was talking about before.
John 3:16-17
(New International Version)
16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
If i had a kid...and i told him or her not to pour gasoline on a fire to get it going or they might be killed...and i locked the gas in a shed...they go and get the door open and they went ahead and poured the gas and there was an explosion and that child was killed. What has happened? Did i send that child to their grave?...or...did i warn them...did i provide a means to protect or save them...but they used their free will and did the act anyway and died a pain filled death! Now im not sure just how good of an analogy that is...but its the best i can do right now....LOL.
John 14:6
(New International Version)
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
There is only one God...there is only one way to heaven...everything else is man depending upon himself and that leads straight to hell
I pray that you find Jesus as Lord and Savior....Stick around...read and listen to some messages...you might just start to hear Jesus tugging at your heart!
I Have No Regrets About My Past...My Past Is Who I Am Today!
Rick j Sane
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