But klop you said the MMs have no shares, nothig to work with. How can they be doing this? Looks more to me like someone trying to walk it down, and I doubt it's a MM. As long as you're going a year back, maybe you can find your post from back then where you tokd us that the MMs finally came down to your buying price. I was really impressed with how you did that. Maybe you could compare the MM activity back then and now. You seem to have a keen eye for that. It might give us more insight as to what's going on here. Thanks a lot,