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wbmw, you have taken me from curiosity to laughter. Where did this come from? .. I'm not angry at you or Steph...
whoever suggested you were? Nowhere, i see any reason for even thinking anger, so where did that come from?

So that's one.

To your .. I tried to communicate one thing, and Steph heard (and debated) quite a different thing.

What? There was this one of yours ..

That's the way I see it, too. Not to mention her fame/infamy has much to thank from the left as well as from
the right.Without liberal personalities constantly bashing her, the media might have lost interest long ago....

Which i, back then, felt was ridiculous too, wish now i'd come in back there then as it would have been
LOLOL easier than doing this .. anyway .. back to your "and Steph heard (and debated) quite a different thing."
(above).. Steph, as i saw it back then, heard you clearly and 'debated' your point exactly .. part of it here ..

The media covers sarah because she is a media draw. She was the minute she appeared on the scene in 2008 and puleeze, she has been ever since. The media will cover her as long as she is popular with the wingers .. and she is pretty darn popular with them, think rush. I know you do not think much of any of these people, but the sad fact is many conservatives do pay attention .. they LOVE her !!! .. she's a winner .. she's a celebrity .. !!!! .. .. they will post until and if those sentiments stop and not one minute before . Just as they did for "the decider" ... ;)))) ... It's when the MEDIA says so.

not anything else.

Your point was that the left, in their, lol, OBSERVATIONS (i don't see attack in observation or criticism) of her had contributed
hugely to Palin's media success and, Steph, disagreed with that point of yours as i did, chuckling, back then too.

Then it went on from there .. LOL .. with imo YOU really not considering her simple ..

I had no idea we had so much power over the media.

Yeah, there were other exchanges, but that's enough to make my point
.... maybe you missed some nuance in her position, though it was clear to me.

This was the first i opened, before putting my porridge on and starting this post .. i googled "why the Palin phenomenon?"

The Sarah Palin Phenomenon Is Doomed
NEW YORK, Sept. 15, 2008

MarketWatch Columnist Jon Friedman Warns The Media Live To Build You Up, Then Knock You Down

Heaps of the MEDIA DARLING inside .. rotflmao!

The Sarah Palin Phenomenon is doomed.

But it's not because of her lack of foreign policy experience or her deer-in-the-headlights look during part of her interview last week with ABC's Charles Gibson.

The primary reason why the Palin bubble will burst is that the media will decide that they are bored with her. They'll need to move to shine a light on a fresh issue or individual.

This is how the world works in the age of 24/7 news cycles. Whether the subject is Britney Spears, Michael Jordan or Sarah Palin, we inevitably raise stars to mythic levels, out of all reasonable proportions. Then we knock them down. (Look out, Michael Phelps. Your time is coming, too.)

INSERT: wbmw: do you have a link illustrating how the left 'attacked' Britney Spears, Michael Jordan or Michael Phelps?

These MEDIA stars, and ALL others are simply because the MEDIA creates them. ROTFLMAO! they are! Political wantever it doesn't matter .. Attacks by ANYONE does not contribute much if anything at all. Steph, dealt with your point perfectly, in here precise and pragmatic way. Your suggewstion that she didn't imo is just dead wrong.

It isn't a case of quixotic behavior by reporters and editors. Internet sites, blogs and cable news operations all thrive on presenting fresh headlines and updated story angles as often as possible so readers think we're on top of things. The news world moves at warp speed.

Palin's story is especially captivating because she emerged as an overnight sensation. The governor of Alaska was virtually unknown on the national scene before Sen. John McCain tapped her to be his running mate. Amid the media crush accompanying her rise, it now seems as if Palin has been around forever.

Another poster mentioned that, [other than the media], McCain, was the culprit and he sure as hell is not of the left.

For as long as she has been in the public eye, people have been skeptical about her qualifications, but the allure of her beginner's pluck catapulted Palin to the covers of magazines ranging from Time to People.

The interview with Gibson may be remembered as the first brick being pulled out of the wall. The reviews weren't favorable from the media in the segments when Gibson asked Palin questions about foreign policy.

For instance, the New York Times called the exchange "strained." The Washington Post-owned Slate went so far as to say that "The ABC News anchor flummoxes the GOP amateur."

I'll be interested to see how Palin -- not to mention McCain and the Republican campaign machine -- reacts when the media's disillusionment sets in for real. Their actions may determine the course of the 2008 race.

If they handle the media's about-face with aplomb, her chances of looking, well, vice-presidential will be enhanced. But if Palin's handlers blow it out of proportion and show a strain, their behavior will reflect negatively on her.

Gibson, as dignified a newsperson as America has now, treated Palin fairly and didn't resort to hectoring her with "gotcha" questions, either.

Palin's supporters may be chagrined that their candidate didn't sound more self-assured or expert when she discussed Alaska's relationship to Russia. But Gibson didn't try to trip her up. He pretty much asked the kinds of questions I would have put to Palin as well.

Gibson treated her with the respect befitting a vice presidential candidate. ABC, while discussing the interview Friday on "Good Morning America" unleashed political correspondent Jake Tapper to assess the "truthiness" of Palin's remarks on the ABC show.

The television networks appear to be treating Palin carefully, trying hard not to seem sexist or liberal or come across as intellectual, big-city bullies.

When ABC noted that Tapper had found a few holes in Palin's comments (though nothing earth shattering), the network took pains to add that it, too, would be dissecting the statements of Joe Biden, the Democratic vice presidential nominee.

Specifically, Palin seemed to have little idea about the Bush Doctrine, in which the U.S must spread democracy around the world to halt terrorist acts. When Gibson put it to her and asked if she agreed with the doctrine, she answered, "In what respect, Charlie?"

Some analysts have suggested that Gibson knew more about the Bush Doctrine than the vice-presidential candidate.

"She sidestepped questions on whether she had the national security credentials needed to be commander-in-chef," the Associated Press noted.

Since we're all clear on the nuances of the Bush Doctrine, we can move on to the Fickle Media Doctrine.

Now that we've built you up, it's about time for us to knock you down.

Can Sarah Palin withstand the body blows that are being inflicted by the national media?

The media aren't the bad guys in the Palin discussion. It's easy to accuse us of acting like sexists or big-city egomaniacs. Let's be real, though. McCain selected Palin for exactly those reasons - because she is a woman from a little-known state, who can take some of the heat off McCain and behave like an attack dog against Barack Obama. So far, the Republicans' plan has worked to perfection, as Palin has dominated the political discourse over the past few weeks. Now we'll see if she has the right stuff to go the distance.

By Jon Friedman
Copyright © 2008 MarketWatch, Inc. All rights reserved
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/15/business/marketwatch/main4448337.shtml

Heh, on your ..

That's ok, because it's a new day, and I'm not frustrated any more. It's ok to agree to disagree sometimes.

Why do people get frustrated? Sometimes when they are more into
pushing a point, you know, not relaxed and open. not saying, but sometimes.

LOL, time to enjoy my porridge-orange, which i guess is cold, by now.

Have a feeling i'm going to have a good day. No frustration at all. Hope you do too, wbmw. ::))