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Thursday, 10/22/2009 3:54:45 PM

Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:54:45 PM

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I know it's an extreme view, I feel Obama is an extreme leader.

What do you think of Wilson and what he did? Pretty extreme wasn't it? People in jail for disagreements with him. Pushing a Socialist agenda, he was pushing Eugenics, which is the basis, the hand book to create the philosophical frame work for Hitlers social cleansing, and the only thing I think stopped him was WWI. I don't think Wilson was going like Hitler did, but it still wasn't very good.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Wilson was the first president to criticize the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.

http://conservativecolloquium.wordpress.com/2008/05/29/woodrow-wilson-americas-worst-and-first-fascist-president/

Obama comes through Acorn by way of Marshal, his mentor who was an extremely radical communist revolutionary. It's Valery Gerit's (spelling) father. His closest adviser (in that she is a personal family friend). Marshal got Obama into Harvard, and into Acorn.

Acorn is tied to tides, from Ella Baker, Cloward and Piven from Colombia university, the Weather Undergroud branched off of their organization. Dave Beckworth had something to do with them through Bertha Lewis, some where between there and Saul Alinksi (spelling) students of Saul Alynski the radical communist revolutionary who wrote the book rules for radicals. Their groups evolved down from the Progressives who Wilson was tied in with. The progressives had heavy ties with the elite in Europe, the whole movement still does. The most visable of those is George Soros, a criminal from Belgium who is a very wealthy man, and would like to see the US knocked down a few notches because he as others think Europe should be the hub of the world, and we piss them off. They infest out entertainment industry and media. There is big money coming from bankers and others to influence what goes on in this country. Now I know, I don't have the proof on that so I can't say it's a fact, just a strong suspicion.

Obama comes from the Acorn system. They made him, with help from Marshal and others, and he owes them.

Dale Rathke, who started Acorn (or was it Wade?) Did an interview with a Fox Reporter, I watched, of course.

Rathke said the reason he started Acorn was to take up for those on Welfare to get more. I'm not sure if the ultimate goal he started with or what it became (I think the former is probably the case) was to overwhelm the economy through the Welfare system. Those are his words. The goal was to topple the government and put in a socialist system.

Now, that is right out of Saul Alinksi's Rules for Radicals. Tides uses it, SEIU uses it, other organizations use it, and Obama seems like he follows the list one by one which is the method to overwhelm the system so it will collapse and another government can be installed and the economic system changed and Redistribution of wealth achieved. That is a stated goal of Obama, he's said it, said the Constitution is in the way. I've herd it in his own voice.

Now the huge "stimulus" that doesn't do anything for the economy? Burning through billions here, trillions there. Do I think the health care take over (1/6th of our economy) is about trying to improve health care? Well I look at the stimulus and it's not designed to help the economy. I see the money he's spent on Hamas through Gaza after getting illegal contributions from there. I see Soros getting 2 billion through his Brazilian oil company, he's got his largest investment position in?

Knowing what I know, seeing what I see, watching Obama build an enemies list, try to control the media, intimidate the bond holders for Chrysler and GM telling them he would put them on a list? Taking what was theirs illegally. Giving big chunks to his Union supporters who had no legal right to it? Using Acorn and SEIU to intimidate AIG executives, sending bus loads of thugs to their homes so they feared for their families? Just like he did to extort improper loans and contributions from banks when he was there?

Look at the people around him, it's a list of crazy extremists with hero's like Mao, Chavez, Castro, Che Guevara, others. They particularly despise the founding fathers, most of them. You have a safe school Czar who wrote the forward in "queering grade school" and advised a kid he said was 15 to have an honest open relationship with a 45 year old man, and wear a condom, and he's still there. Llyod the FCC diversity Czar who said the idea of freedom of speech gets in the way of what he really needs to do. Czars who think putting sterilants in the drinking water would be ok. One who said that the human race is a huge festering glob of maggots consuming the earth (Van Jones, he's gone) Cass Sunstien who is against anyone having guns but the government. Against hunting and doesn't like people eating meat, and wants to give animals the right to sue in court. Kon who thinks we should use international law as precedent for our own. Browner who is a Socialist and all for a new world order, sits in some group who advocate that. I could go on an on with this crap, their are all kinds of nuts around Obama and he choose them, just like he did his nut whitey hating radical preacher of 20 years.

Knowing what I know, what am I supposed to think? Obama has given me nothing but reason to suspect he would do anything he could get away with, and his history suggests a radical communist agenda. Redistribution of wealth.


My problem with Socialism? It doesn't work with real people, and every time it's been tried it fails and leaves people poor, and what's more their spirit is ruined. People need challenge, motivation that doing something to make your lot in life and your children's better, brings. On a work for no perceivable reward system? They don't work, they don't produce, and basically become stunted like farm animals as opposed to wild animals. Some people who envision themselves leading a group of people want that, but I don't.

I know, I don't have what constitutes proof, but I do have reasonable connections and verifications by behavior of theory's / suspicions.

I've seen a lot more evidence than I could list here, or that I could find in a while. I spend a lot of time checking this stuff out, a lot of time.

I've been following politics heavily since Clinton won while I was in the military.

I don't belong to any group. I'm not made for that. I'm not stupid by a long shot, though I do have moments lol, very intelligent people can go wrong and get into very stupid things, so that means nothing as to the voracity of my collected information and how I see it.

I'm agnostic, not in a big hurry to see the world end or looking for it as a sign of great things. Don't want the bad stuff, would rather I thought everything was rosy. my problem is not with race, honest, it means nothing. I am constantly working to put things together, because I want to know.

I'm gifted in understanding behaviors of people, individual and in groups. I've also done a lot of study.

I guess that's about all the useful answer I can fit right now.

Thanks for not being an idiot : )

I'm not checking this because it's too damned long. Sorry in advance.

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