I'm sure I have to plead guilty to your ignorance charge. I don't claim to know everything and I'm sure these transactions are written in such a way that they can renegotiate the note, extend it or even re-write it. Maybe you can clarify how it works when a note is due. I would think that they just have to fill out paper work that the note is due and if not paid, it will convert to pre-agreed shares. Can these shares be restricted, and do they have to be registered immediately? If not registered, would they show up in the O/S ? Not picking on you, but you appear to have knowledge in that area. TIA