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Saturday, December 20, 2008 1:15:10 PM
Mickey, I can't help myself but to respond to you for some reason. It is you that needs to get things through his thick head not others. Why in heaven's name do you believe that Nokia would put their fate in the hands of a competitor. For Nokia to have agreed to terms based on what Sammy agreed would be putting their fate in the hands of others which they are not about to do. You can stick with whatever story you want to if it helps you sleep at night but your unending, repetitive posts are comical. You haven't changed one bit since your self imposed exile from this board LOL.
Management has NEVER SAID that IDCC and Nokia have agreed to terms, except maybe in your own mind. What they stated 8 months ago was that they resolved many of their disputed issues. Obviously that is still a long way from an agreement since it has now been 8 months and no update or agreement. Remember, management is under no obligation to update us based on their own disclosure as filed in the quarterly and annual reports. They easily could be miles apart again or they could be hours away from a deal we just don't know.
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whizzeresq
Why don't you and the rest get it through your heads, that IDCC and Nokia has agreed to terms, but the terms was restricted to what the Samsung final agreement was. Nokia's rate could never be agreed on because Nokia wasn't about to be caught paying more than Samsung, and IDCC wasn't about to give even Nokia a MFL clause, as they finally learned a lesson on MFL. I think all the other parts of the agreement was already settled on as once those were agreed on it has always been the rate, and Samsung was going to be the deciding factor on what rate they wouldn't have to exceed, but most likely have to pay that or that less a volume discount. This is my story and I am sticking to it.
I posted every time that Samsung would be the first to fall, and Nokia would not be a problem after Samsung. Sony Ericsson should not be a big problem I wouldn't think, but one never knows. If IDCC offers Motorola anything less than the highest number paid by a licensee, then I would love to slap the hell out of who would agree to anything less.
I don't know exactly what the short term holds but boy is this stock spring loaded to fly. If the CEO'S comments hold true about per unit average. You take the still remaining shorts and the calls that should finish in the money, the amount of shares needing to be covered would be about 16% of total outstanding shares.
If and I say if the market makers desire and Heartland doesn't have to sell out then a sling shot stock price could well be on the horizon.
Just my opinion.
Mickey
Management has NEVER SAID that IDCC and Nokia have agreed to terms, except maybe in your own mind. What they stated 8 months ago was that they resolved many of their disputed issues. Obviously that is still a long way from an agreement since it has now been 8 months and no update or agreement. Remember, management is under no obligation to update us based on their own disclosure as filed in the quarterly and annual reports. They easily could be miles apart again or they could be hours away from a deal we just don't know.
Message In Reply To:
whizzeresq
Why don't you and the rest get it through your heads, that IDCC and Nokia has agreed to terms, but the terms was restricted to what the Samsung final agreement was. Nokia's rate could never be agreed on because Nokia wasn't about to be caught paying more than Samsung, and IDCC wasn't about to give even Nokia a MFL clause, as they finally learned a lesson on MFL. I think all the other parts of the agreement was already settled on as once those were agreed on it has always been the rate, and Samsung was going to be the deciding factor on what rate they wouldn't have to exceed, but most likely have to pay that or that less a volume discount. This is my story and I am sticking to it.
I posted every time that Samsung would be the first to fall, and Nokia would not be a problem after Samsung. Sony Ericsson should not be a big problem I wouldn't think, but one never knows. If IDCC offers Motorola anything less than the highest number paid by a licensee, then I would love to slap the hell out of who would agree to anything less.
I don't know exactly what the short term holds but boy is this stock spring loaded to fly. If the CEO'S comments hold true about per unit average. You take the still remaining shorts and the calls that should finish in the money, the amount of shares needing to be covered would be about 16% of total outstanding shares.
If and I say if the market makers desire and Heartland doesn't have to sell out then a sling shot stock price could well be on the horizon.
Just my opinion.
Mickey
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