I've collected a bunch of things like this over the last year or so. Mina Mar always seems to be involved in these messes. I agree with you. There's always a way to make $$ on these pinkies, but, IMO, you're going to get pinched if you think the company is legitimate and try to put in a long play here. IMO, they pay lots of money to pump this stock, while they're dumping as many shares as they can. The end result...Triple zeros, then inevitably, no bid at all. Then... Reverse Split, and do it all over again. IMO.