well while a bit mechanically challenged, have done a few things that would be considered MAN'ly since I have owned a landscaping company for over 20 years dealing w/ sprinkler installation, retaining walls, concrete footing, over 75 linear foot of 2 12' walls built w/ over 200 cu yds of dirt moved in and out and pumped in EACH tile block of the wall over 95 yds of concrete, etc but the point was I didnt want to impose on what has already been a very generous donation of his time and knowledge on this....