OT...My ex-broker used to tout CIEN...he knew this co backwards & forwards. Today I thought I would see how long term investors in that stock (& a few others) have fared compared to me where I am counting on Wave & they are on the threshhold of big revs, IMO. When I look at the 5 yr graphs in these stocks, did long term investors actually lose (from 2000 to present) $50 per sh (INTC), lose $155 (CIEN),lose $230 (BRCM)? Incredible. Converting to percentages is even more astounding.