excel, it's okay.
I agree I don;t have all the private info you have and I am sorry you feel like PL and I have have over stepped or something.
I am not trying to do anything other than HELP! Period.
I know what a VOW is btw and I was not referring to a separation, although I have NEVER counseled anyone to do that unless there was physical abuse or danger coming into play. Notice I said I have never, not you.
I did not read ANY of the other posts so I am somewhat at a disadvantage and though you may find it hard to believe, not trying to cause any difficulties here or "take your patient".
I understand all too well what the words being submissive and their other word forms, like "subjective" mean.
As you said, I do not have the intimate details and at this time and not interested in them.
I am not talking about a situation either.
I was talking specifically about the WORD and how it applies to similar situations I have personally been involved in for over 2 and a half decades my friend.
Sorry for the interjection.
Be assured, it won't happen again.
You failed to notice apparently I also stated that IF there is signs of ohysical danger. That includes abuse and drunkenness that leads to physical harm.
If you care to go farther than that and ASSUME some things, that is your prerogative.
I will say no more.
Lastly, you are right, I have only seen this board and another one in the past two weeks. I think I will just stay at my board.
I do wish you well.
A shame.
MIB