Phil, Not to sound negitive but when someone sits on a stock that is "stuck in the mud" as this one is, most people do lose money. Because they could be investing somewhere else that is working for them. I felt I had to sell not long ago and it turned out to be the best move now that I look back because I have made some of it back. Also MNTY when down and I saved money that way. Yes I bought back some but a fraction of what I had before. Being stuck at .0001 isn't good for the investor in any way! JMHO