there has been no volume to speak of .. for a bit now but yep ... who will blink first spoke with two other *longs* so far today .. i can safely say we won't be selling .. <g> on the positive side .. another mm went to 13 on the bid .. so bid ask is 13/15 <2 x 1> patience is a wonderful thing .. as i said to one of the longs this float is very tightly held just waiting for news .. perhaps next week? .. --- 4kids all jmo