considering your a welch bettor.....one would have to be a complete fool to bet u at this point....u don't pay up.....kinda like GTEM.....which didn't u work for at one point.....well now there is a coincidence.....hey where are those donuts u owe me.....u keep telling me they in the mail.....heck i'm sure they stale by now.....really vern why don't u pay your previous debts first before u get yourself more in debt......u can see what happens when u don't....just look at GTEM.....hey hows that IPO of yours coming?.....yea maybe u should take a look in the mirror for once.