It is a good thing I promised myself not to beat a dead horse in 2007 on the baseball board, because last year I would have wrote another 20 message on some topic that keeps coming up on this board right now. LOL. There are clearly are people that would be on my side of the fence, and some people on the opposite side of the fence. I guess we will all just have to agree to disagree, because I'm not changing my position, and neither is excel for example, so in my opinion it seems futile to talk about this further. All is just my opinion, and I could always be wrong though.