Saturday, September 13, 2025 6:36:51 PM
Yes, the ATL-DC that UCLA makes is "basically the same" as DC-L. But that is like saying Opdivo and Keytruda are "basically the same".
And LL has worked on developing DC-L, that is true.
But it is very clear there are differences: From the Direct+Poly-ICLC paper:
Monocyte-derived DCs were established from adherent peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMC) obtained via leukapheresis performed at the UCLA Hemapheresis Unit, as we have published on previously 3,6,55. All ex vivo DC preparations were performed in the UCLA-Jonsson Cancer Center GMP facility under sterile and monitored conditions. In brief, dendritic cells were prepared by culturing adherent cells from peripheral blood in RPMI-1640 (Gibco) and supplemented with 10% autologous serum, 500 U/mL GM-CSF (Leukine®, Amgen, Thousand Oaks, CA) and 500 U/mL of IL-4 (CellGenix), using techniques described previously 56. Following culture, DCs were collected by vigorous rinsing and washed with sterile 0.9% NaCl solution. The purity and phenotype of each DC lot was also determined by flow cytometry (FACScan flow cytometer; BD Biosciences, San Jose, CA). Cells were stained with FITC-conjugated CD83, PE-conjugated CD86 and PerCP-conjugated HLA-DR mAb’s (BD Biosciences). Release criteria were >70% viable by trypan blue exclusion, and >30% of the large cell gate being CD86+ and HLA-DR+. One day before each vaccination, DC were pulsed (co-cultured) with tumor lysate overnight, washed, and the final product was tested for sterility by Gram stain, mycoplasma and endotoxin testing prior to injection.
So the final maturation step occurs once for each does and not frozen after that,
For 25 years NWBO has asserted that their process has a huge win with a single batch run per patient. The doses are frozen and used as needed.
I am sorry if your AI is too stupid to understand the difference.
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