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Thursday, 08/21/2025 5:51:32 PM

Thursday, August 21, 2025 5:51:32 PM

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Mideast colonization: Never forget: Palestine Has Exposed Every Lie the West Tells the World

"[b]Israeli security cabinet approves plan to take over Gaza City, Benjamin Netanyahu's office says
"Two Israeli human rights groups say their country is committing genocide in Gaza"
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"Murder in the ME - More than 90 killed in Gaza strikes including journalist who just became a father
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Ehud Barak: the military mastermind Israel loves to hate
[...]Israel's yearning for experienced military leaders brought him back to political life after the 2006 Lebanon war and he became minister of defence. He seems to have a feel for what motivates his enemies and was widely quoted as saying: "If I were a Palestinian I would have joined a terrorist organisation." Barak also stated during a US television interview last year that he would "probably" strive for nuclear weapons if he were in Iran's position. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173530549

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Nor should we forget the members of terrorist groups who went on to become PM of Israel:

Yitz?ak Shamir (born October 15, 1915, Ruzinoy, Poland, Russian Empire [now Ruzhany, Belarus]—died June 30, 2012, Tel Aviv–Yafo, Israel) was a Polish-born Zionist leader and prime minister of Israel in 1983–84 and 1986–90 (in alliance with Shimon Peres of the Labour Party) and in 1990–92.

Shamir joined the Beitar Zionist youth movement as a young man and studied law in Warsaw. He immigrated to Palestine in 1935 and enrolled at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem. There he joined the Irgun Zvai Leumi (IZL) underground movement; and in 1940, following a policy split in the IZL, he joined the Israel Freedom Fighters (IFF), a terrorist group later known as the Stern Gang (after its founder, Abraham Stern). https://www.britannica.com/biography/Yitzhak-Shamir

.. then there was ..

From Terror to a Peace Treaty with Egypt

When Israel's Prime Minister Begin came to Oslo to receive the Peace Prize, there were such violent demonstrations against him that the award ceremony had to be moved to Akershus fortress. Begin shared the Peace Prize with Egypt's President Anwar el-Sadat for the peace treaty concluded between Israel and Egypt. The so-called Camp David Accords were negotiated under pressure from US President Jimmy Carter.

Menachem Begin was born in Poland, where he joined an extremist Zionist movement that wanted to establish a Jewish state in Palestine by force. During the Second World War Begin was in custody in the Soviet Union before he, with incredible luck, managed to get to Jerusalem. There he became the leader of the Irgun Zwai Leumi organization which resorted to terror both against the British authorities and against Palestine's Arab inhabitants. Irgun also fought the Israeli army until Begin accepted David Ben Gurion's supreme leadership. In 1977 Begin became Prime Minister when the conservative Likud alliance won the election.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1978/begin/facts/

We can only wonder what the situation would be today if, say before or after.the '67 war, 58 years ago,
the Zionist leaders had recognized the Palestinian right to an independent state as promised them in 1948.

See: By the end of the war, the State of Israel controlled all of the area that the UN had proposed for a Jewish state, as well as almost 60% of the area proposed for an Arab state,[22] including Jaffa, Lydda and Ramle area, Upper Galilee, some parts of the Negev, the west coast as far as Gaza City, and a wide strip along the Tel Aviv–Jerusalem road. Israel also took control of West Jerusalem, which was meant to be part of an international zone for Jerusalem and its environs. Transjordan took control of East Jerusalem and what became known as the West Bank, annexing it the following year. The territory known today as the Gaza Strip was occupied by Egypt.

Expulsions of Palestinians, which had begun during the civil war, continued during the Arab-Israeli war. Hundreds of Palestinians were killed in multiple massacres, such as occurred in the expulsions from Lydda and Ramle. These events are known today as the Nakba (Arabic for "the catastrophe") and were the beginning of the Palestinian refugee problem. A similar number of Jews moved to Israel during the three years following the war, including 260,000 who migrated, fled, or were expelled from the surrounding Arab states.[23][24][25]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War

So, Israeli terrorists, by any measure, went on to become Prime Ministers of Israel. What right does Israel have to deny similar evolution to terrorist Palestinians today toward becoming head of an independent Palestinian state.

No right, but might. And the support of one very powerful friend in particular.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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