LOL, I forgot to thank you and update you. Your putting instructions of Just stay with the same thing/set up/stroke.. was great help cuz that takes care of the "what the fuck do I do now" problem I went early (play once a week) and stayed on the practice green right up until (one of ur other advice) It was time to grab a cooler of beer and head to the first tee And, fucking incredibly - actually sinking some of those 3 and 4 foot putts now Thank you, thank you,.. no wonder people avoid putting out.. taking 3 and 4 foot gimmies (takies actually) cuz the alternative is bad. Thanks again.