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Re: boston745 post# 89431

Saturday, 11/02/2024 6:19:47 PM

Saturday, November 02, 2024 6:19:47 PM

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There seems to be alot of confusion surrounding FSD or Autopilot in regards to Tesla accidents. For instance the accident of a Tesla employee in Colorado that resulted in his death. It is claimed that the Tesla had FSD installed and activated when it, for reasons unknown, veered off the road into a tree. How many times have I posted articles here of Teslas doing just that without FSD in use or even with AP active? This would be the first time Teslas FSD system behaved in the EXACT SAME MANNER! The passenger claims that FSD was engaged and this is also confirmed by the employees wife shes claiming Mr Von Ohain always used it.
That said, Musk and Tesla claim that FSD was never DOWNLOADED onto this vehicle and Tesla could not verify if any ADA system was in use because that data was never uploaded to them before the accident. Washinton Post however has vehicle data indicating FSD was engaged, purchased, car sufficiently equipped, the ability to transfer FSD to another vehicle, and witness statements accounting for its use.
Where does the confusion come from? Well the confusion comes from Teslas statements that FSD was not DOWNLOADED onto this Tesla. While FSD was not downloaded to the car, could it have been installed in another manner? Or maybe even pre-installed? Patel, Teslas VP of public policy has this to say about the incident:

In this tragic case, we have no data/evidence that any system was or was not enabled and have cooperated with authorities fully, as we always do. What we do know is that FSD beta software was not downloaded onto the car.


Personally i think Tesla is playing the game of words, using truth to mislead. In claiming that the driver didnt download FSD people naturally believe that FSD wasnt installed. However that is not what was said. No one has claimed FSD wasnt installed only that it wasnt "downloaded". Thus opening up the likelihood, given the evidence the Washington Post has, that FSD was installed via a different method: like being pre-installed, transfer from another Tesla, or direct load via a USB device. Any of the mentioned methods would explain how Tesla is being truthful, yet deceptive, while FSD was used when the Tesla killed Mr. Von Ohain. Im just going to add that Tesla and Musk are known for their use of Truth to tell lies. Like when Musk claimed Reuters was lying in its article about Tesla shelving the "Model 2". Tesla has shelved it and Musk never specified what Reuters was "lying" about, but it certainly wasnt in connection to the Model 2.

Here is some conflicting information:

For example, while Tesla reported the crash to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration as involving driver-assistance software, NHTSA allows the company to redact key information that would shed light on what features were engaged at the time of the crash. NHTSA told The Post that the role of Full Self-Driving was unknown, and that evidence to confirm whether the software was engaged had been destroyed in the crash.


NHTSA indicates evidence to confirm if FSD was in use was destroyed yet somehow Washington Post has vehicle records showing FSD was active.

As part of its reporting, The Post obtained vehicle records showing “Full Self-Driving Capability” as “Active” and “Included” with the car, and a recent message from the company offering von Ohain’s account the ability to “Transfer Your Full Self-Driving Capability to a New Tesla.”



Quote Sources:
https://www.teslaoracle.com/2024/02/14/tesla-employees-fatal-crash-model-3-never-had-full-self-driving-on-it-elon-musk-debunks-washington-post-article/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/02/14/tesla-crash-musk-full-self-driving/

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Here is a collection of my research going over multiple subjects including Tesla AI/Neural Net for AB missile systems, SpaceX satellites = grid of satellites for Brilliant Pebbles, September 11ths SpaceX connection, & Musk = DoD stooge.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175270333

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Section 3 - The computer errors from outer space
(Elon Musk: Model S not a car but a ‘sophisticated computer on wheels’)

When computers go wrong, we tend to assume it's just some software hiccup, a bit of bad programming. But ionising radiation, including rays of protons blasted towards us by the sun, can also be the cause. These incidents, called single-event upsets, are rare and it can be impossible to be sure that cosmic rays were involved in a specific malfunction because they leave no trace behind them.

And yet they have been singled out as the possible culprits behind numerous extraordinary cases of computer failure. From a vote-counting machine that added thousands of non-existent votes to a candidate's tally, to a commercial airliner that suddenly dropped hundreds of feet mid-flight, injuring dozens of passengers


Plus, since giant ejections from the sun can sometimes send huge waves of particles towards Earth, what's called space weather, an unnerving prospect looms: we could see much more disruption to computers than we're used to during a massive geomagnetic storm in the future


https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20221011-how-space-weather-causes-computer-errors

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Section 4 - Superseding and/or Intervening Force

Tesla argues it had no control in the crash and death which were "caused by a superseding and/or intervening force."


There you have it folks Tesla admits an outside force caused this Tesla to glitch and go out of control. That is true, its not Teslas fault, per se, that its vehicles go out of control. Its the destabilized electromagnetic environment we are experiencing as a result of the earths continued weakening of its magnetic field. While I do not disagree that this is an outside force causing its vehicles to go out of control, its precisely why computers on wheels (Teslas/EVs/computerized ICE) should not be on the roads. Because these vehicles will continue to go out of control and with more frequency putting the greater public in danger. EVs will continue to destroy lives whether through killing those involved, created long-term psychological damage, or leading to the incarceration of people who did nothing wrong other than drive an EV.
Also as Tesla is aware of the problem and does not warn the public its liable for everyone of its vehicles going out of control!

https://www.carcomplaints.com/news/2024/hans-von-ohain-tesla-crash-autopilot.shtml

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Section 5 - Tesla Drivers Have the Highest Crash Rate of Any Brand: Study
Tesla led all automakers with 23.54 crashes per 1,000 drivers in the past year.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/tesla-drivers-have-the-highest-crash-rate-of-any-brand-study

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Section 6 -Tesla suffers SUA and drives into a parking garage wall.

I'm begging all of you to NEVER get in a Tesla as long as you live. It started accelerating on its own in a parking garage and my dad lost all control of the car and we ran into a wall at 40 mph. Most horrifying experience of my life.


https://www.autoevolution.com/news/tesla-model-3-crash-inside-parking-garage-generates-dramatic-appeal-against-ev-maker-207530.html

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Section 7 - List of out of control Teslas for 2023 and link to 2022 out of control accidents as well.

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173546837

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Section 8 - How EMI causes SUA in EVs and how the wrong data is sent to Teslas recorder falsely blaming the driver for the sudden acceleration

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175277001

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Section 9 - Hutchison Effect & Teslas Whompy Wheel issue

Jain is one of tens of thousands of Tesla owners who have experienced premature failures of suspension or steering parts, according to a Reuters review of thousands of Tesla documents. The chronic failures, many in relatively new vehicles, date back at least seven years and stretch across Tesla’s model lineup and across the globe, from China to the United States to Europe, according to the records and interviews with more than 20 customers and nine former Tesla managers or service technicians.



https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-suspension/

The exact cause of the Hutchison Effect is unknown in public spheres as it is classified under national security. However the most likely culprit seems to be a combination of electromagnetic sources coming together in a way to change the makeup of metals leading to their rusting, softening, fracturing, complete breaking, even dustification. Keep in mind the degree of metal materials that are within our buildings and infrastructure...even in concrete. Maybe this is why we are seeing an increase in building and bridge collapses?

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Is it an exercise to create forum verbiage to drown out any serious discussion of evidence?

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