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For example: unions have sub classes for these different jobs. Electrical worker's union encompasses; linemen, wiremen, residential electrician, line clearance vegetation management, etc etc. All of these sub categories have their own rates, contracts, resign dates, holidays or lackthereof, dues...

It's been done. Those that haven't been apart of a union don't understand that it's all organized to such degrees already to cater to each field of work. And that's just IBEW. It's not outdated. It's an extra layer of leverage for those employed to not get wadded up like garbage and tossed out just because a company can. Yeah there's layoffs too, and cliques, and witch hunts to get rid of select individuals that drag the rest down.

There's still ways to fire people, but it's legally sound and documented, as it should be. Without unions, termination happens more regularly to uneducated workers who are forced to sign or lose the option to enact COBRA, as they told my father. Which is bs, but that's what non union companies pull. They expect an individual to not know their rights, pull shady measures and good luck to the former employee to take proper legal recourse, as their income has now just dried up. This isn't decades ago. It still happens today all across the labor market. There's still some jobs that have only just become more regulated these past 5 years to be somewhat safe. Did you know, that link I shared to that company, 8 years ago, there weren't policies regarding drop zones and entering under a tree while an individual was trimming.

Technology has sped up. Expectations sped up. Arrogance that everything should already be done, match, and evolve with it... that sped up too. Buddy... go out into a trade that's in the field. You'll be shocked that what holds our infrastructure together isn't as advanced as you all think it is.

The Electrical grid itself in places is still decades old and barely hanging on. The work pool isn't what it was either, as the younger generations want to work as little as possible while making as much as possible. Backwards ethics.

Don't be so quick to drink the "unions bad" kool-aid. Some of us in the locals aren't staunch democrats. I know I voted. For Trump. Over 2/3 in my field did too.