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Re: brooklyn13 post# 453838

Thursday, 10/19/2023 1:57:00 PM

Thursday, October 19, 2023 1:57:00 PM

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I agree Jews should not be conflated with Israel. Unfortunately so many non Jews do. - "This is the problem with conflating Israel with Jews..." I agree no Jew who is not actively supporting Israel should be pressured about Israel. Anyone, period, Jew or not, who doesn't see the Zionist problem deserves to be questioned about that.

My asking you whether or not you felt Jews were actually a God-chosen people was either a bit tongue-in-cheek or because i didn't know for sure. I'll assume you are one of the ones to whom religion is not that important:

2. Jewish identity and belief
Religion is not central to the lives of most U.S. Jews. Even Jews by religion are much less likely than Christian adults to consider religion to be very important in their lives (28% vs. 57%). And among Jews as a whole, far more report that they find meaning in spending time with their families or friends, engaging with arts and literature, being outdoors, and pursuing their education or careers than find meaning in their religious faith. Twice as many Jewish Americans say they derive a great deal of meaning and fulfillment from spending time with pets as say the same about their religion.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2021/05/11/jewish-identity-and-belief/

Also, off and on i and others here have been telling you: "And it's just as bad to conflate Hamas with the Palestinians, or so it seems." .. since Day 1.

If you haven't read in more places than one that not all Gazans agree with Hamas then you are missing much.

Gazans elected Hamas over Fatah when they determined that decades of Fatah working with Zionists and USA and others were never going to get them an independent state as they had been promised in the British Mandate deal in '48. And repeatedly since.

That's roughly as i see it. Only my impression.

Am assuming you have read my posts on the problem Zionists also have in the West Bank.

What to expect when they continue to steal more land every year. All the continuing settlement in the West Bank is illegal under international law. You would be aware of that.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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