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Wednesday, March 22, 2023 4:16:01 PM
You aren't. It's a minor detail you've maybe never come across before and it's one i can never keep easily clear in my recall file (memory being different from recall). Gawd knows how many times i've asked in NSW what's the difference in ml between a middie, a schooner and a pint. I'll try to get it simple but first you do know why it's not as simple as it could be .. https://www.findmeabrewery.com/pint/ .. just because lol America isn't. If you guys used the same measurements as most of the rest of the world it would be easier.
And to compound the difficulty posed by our our different measuring of liquid volume systems, also even in Australia schooners are different sizes .. oops, in America too i've just learned after already getting all the complicating stuff below .. schooners are different sizes .. umm, lost the little one i just had. Ok, another. How about this as an edit before posting:
“Schooner”
In my Brooklyn wanderings the other week, I came upon this sign outside a bar:
[...]
And what of North America? Not surprisingly, we have super-sized the schooner. The OED is no help here, but this is what Wikipedia has to say:
--
In Canada, a “schooner” refers to a large capacity beer glass. Unlike the Australian schooner, which is smaller than a pint, a Canadian schooner is always larger. Although not standardized, the most common size of schooner served in Canadian bars is 946 ml (32 US fl oz); the volume of two US pints. It is usually a tankard (mug) shaped glass, rather than a pint-shaped glass….
--
In the United States, “schooner” refers to the shape of the glass (rounded with a short stem), rather than the capacity. It can range from 18 to 32 US fl oz (532 to 946 ml).
Sure enough, here’s an article from a Lawrence, Kansas, newspaper about a bar in that college town that serves 32 oz. schooners in the rounded shape — though “If the bar runs out of clean glasses on a busy night, you’ll get your 32 ounces of beer in a giant plastic cup.”
https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2020/03/05/schooner/
That doesn't make it simpler than all the other i'd already puzzled (or muzzled like a sniffer dog might) through ..
it's all here ..
Australia
In all Australian states other than South Australia, a "schooner" is a 425 ml (15 imp fl oz), or three-quarters of an imperial pint pre-metrication.
It is the most common size in New South Wales, Queensland and the Northern Territory, although it is known in other states. Some hospitality venues in Western Australia are going through a process of "schoonerification", whereby the previous culture of drinking by pints has been changed with vessels of schooner size to allay increasing costs to venues and with encouragement from the state government to curb binge drinking.
In South Australian pubs and clubs, the term "schooner" refers to a glass with a capacity of 285 ml (10 imp fl oz) (known as a "pot" elsewhere in Australia, or a "middy" in New South Wales and Western Australia; these were half an imperial pint pre-metrication).
There is no legal definition of a schooner in Australia,[3] with the volume of beer served depending on the venue. A calibrated 425 ml glass may be used and filled to the brim, resulting in a "schooner" of 375 ml of beer and 50 ml of froth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schooner_(glass)#Australia
LOL Excuse it's early, and in fun mood 6:15 am. So how to make it simple. Umm, i'll put it here as we go .. can we jump steps .. how about search for "difference between American pint and NSW Australian schooner"
Ok, this is a start .. you know what a glass of beer looks like so will leave the images inside .. 5 Beer Glass Sizes in Australia Explained
Scott Purcell, 2 Oct 2020 | Guide
It’s no secret that Australians love their beer. It’s a long and stable relationship that dates back to 1808 when the early convicts decided they had had enough of rum and wanted something better to drink (I think that’s how the story goes). But when it comes to deciding beer sizes, Australia is all over the shop.
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The metric system may have taken the country by storm when it was first introduced in 1970, but clearly, no one thought to tell the beermakers and publicans. We’ve ended up in a situation where you need a degree in metrology, with a major in Australian beer sizes, to have any clue what’s going on.
To make sure you don’t embarrass yourself on the next interstate footy trip, it’s important to know how many mls in a schooner, how many mls in a pint and your ponies from your pints. Here’s our guide on the most popular beer sizes Australia has to offer.
Beer sizes Australia
1. Schooner Size – 425 ml
The size of a schooner glass is considered incontrovertible fact in most of the country, measuring in at a respectable and thirst-quenching 425ml. Of course, adopting a universal glass size would make too much sense, so thankfully we have South Australia to ruin what would otherwise be a rare instance of Australian beer bonhomie.
Down there (and nowhere else in the world) 425ml is considered a pint. No wonder they call it the Wine State.
Size: 425ml (~15 fl oz)
State: ACT, NSW, NT, QLD, TAS, VIC, WA
Beer sizes Australia
2. Pint Size – 570 ml
Arguably England’s greatest colonial export, the ol’ pint of beer is the heavyweight of Australian beer glasses. Based on a metric conversion of 20 imperial fluid ounces (approx. 568ml), the pint is the slightly intimidating older brother to the more-popular schooner, but seems to be gaining traction around the country.
It’s also one of the few beer sizes where South Australia almost manages to tow the party line, where it’s known as an imperial pint.
Size: 570ml (~20 fl oz)
States: ACT, NSW, NT, QLD, TAS, VIC, WA
https://manofmany.com/lifestyle/drinks/beer-glass-sizes-in-australia-explained
Ok. Umm as you know we use the British Imperial System and you guys ..
How Big Is a Pint?
This is because a pint in the United Kingdom is bigger than a pint in the United States. The UK pint is 20 fluid ounces, while the US pint fills up 16 fl oz. However, this translation is not that simple, as fluid ounces do not equal one another across the Atlantic. Here is the breakdown of volume between the two countries:
* The British Imperial fluid ounce is equal to 28.413 milliliters, while the US Customary fluid ounce is 29.573 ml.
*The British Imperial pint is 568.261 ml (20 fluid ounces), while the US Customary pint is 473.176 ml (16 fl oz).
* The British Imperial quart is 1.13 liters (40 fl oz), while the US Customary quart is 0.94 L (32 fl oz).
* The British Imperial gallon is 4.54 L (160 fl oz), while the US Customary gallon is 3.78 L (128 fl oz).
Read more at the ANSI Blog: Why a Pint is Bigger in the UK than in the US https://blog.ansi.org/?p=158111
https://blog.ansi.org/2018/06/why-pint-bigger-in-uk-than-in-us-volume/#gref
LOLOL I know i could have made it much simpler, still this is closer to life. And at least you now can find more about Australian ice-cream from the link above.
What's an American pint????
15 fl oz (425 mL) known as a "pint" 20 fl oz (570 mL) known as an "imperial pint"
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=what%27s+an+american+pint+
Ok, IF i read that right, IF an Australian schooner, in most of Australia, is 425 mL and if
that's also the size of an American pint then it looks a schooner in Australia is your pint.
Hmm, IF that's right it's new to me. Something not quite right though - above it says an American pint is "473.176 ml" which is bigger.
Dang, if our schooner was your pint it would have been much easier.
And an Australian pint is bigger at 570 ml.
to here .. one more look for a rough direct comparison .. OK - actually was here at near the beginning up top ..
Australia
In all Australian states other than South Australia, a "schooner" is a 425 ml (15 imp fl oz), or three-quarters of an imperial pint pre-metrication.
It is the most common size in New South Wales, Queensland and the Northern Territory, although it is known in other states. Some hospitality venues in Western Australia are going through a process of "schoonerification", whereby the previous culture of drinking by pints has been changed with vessels of schooner size to allay increasing costs to venues and with encouragement from the state government to curb binge drinking.
In South Australian pubs and clubs, the term "schooner" refers to a glass with a capacity of 285 ml (10 imp fl oz) (known as a "pot" elsewhere in Australia, or a "middy" in New South Wales and Western Australia; these were half an imperial pint pre-metrication).
There is no legal definition of a schooner in Australia,[3] with the volume of beer served depending on the venue. A calibrated 425 ml glass may be used and filled to the brim, resulting in a "schooner" of 375 ml of beer and 50 ml of froth.
Canada
In Canada, a "schooner" refers to a large capacity beer glass. Unlike the Australian schooner, which is smaller than a pint, a Canadian schooner is larger. Although not standardised, the most common size of schooner served in Canadian bars is 33.3 Imp fl oz / 946 ml (32 US fl oz). It is commonly a tankard-shaped glass (dimpled mug shape with handle), rather than a traditional pint glass. It shouldn't be confused with Schooner Lager, which is a regional brand of beer found only in the eastern maritime provinces of Canada.
United States
In most places in the United States, "schooner" refers to the shape of the glass (rounded with a short stem), rather than the capacity. It can range from 18 to 32 US fl oz (532 to 946 ml).
In the Pacific Northwest, "schooner" refers to a smaller size pour, usually 8 to 12 ounces. It's often available off-menu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schooner_(glass)#Australia
So a schooner in America has a range of some 400ml+ .. 532 to 946 ml .. OUCH. In Australia a schooner is mostly 425 ml.
DANG .. how about .. US liquid pint .... 16 US fl oz .... ˜ 473 mL
And Australian schooner 425 ml, mostly. So your liquid pint would be about 11.3% bigger than our schooner.
I didn't get it clear.
And to compound the difficulty posed by our our different measuring of liquid volume systems, also even in Australia schooners are different sizes .. oops, in America too i've just learned after already getting all the complicating stuff below .. schooners are different sizes .. umm, lost the little one i just had. Ok, another. How about this as an edit before posting:
“Schooner”
In my Brooklyn wanderings the other week, I came upon this sign outside a bar:
[...]
And what of North America? Not surprisingly, we have super-sized the schooner. The OED is no help here, but this is what Wikipedia has to say:
--
In Canada, a “schooner” refers to a large capacity beer glass. Unlike the Australian schooner, which is smaller than a pint, a Canadian schooner is always larger. Although not standardized, the most common size of schooner served in Canadian bars is 946 ml (32 US fl oz); the volume of two US pints. It is usually a tankard (mug) shaped glass, rather than a pint-shaped glass….
--
In the United States, “schooner” refers to the shape of the glass (rounded with a short stem), rather than the capacity. It can range from 18 to 32 US fl oz (532 to 946 ml).
Sure enough, here’s an article from a Lawrence, Kansas, newspaper about a bar in that college town that serves 32 oz. schooners in the rounded shape — though “If the bar runs out of clean glasses on a busy night, you’ll get your 32 ounces of beer in a giant plastic cup.”
https://notoneoffbritishisms.com/2020/03/05/schooner/
That doesn't make it simpler than all the other i'd already puzzled (or muzzled like a sniffer dog might) through ..
it's all here ..
Australia
In all Australian states other than South Australia, a "schooner" is a 425 ml (15 imp fl oz), or three-quarters of an imperial pint pre-metrication.
It is the most common size in New South Wales, Queensland and the Northern Territory, although it is known in other states. Some hospitality venues in Western Australia are going through a process of "schoonerification", whereby the previous culture of drinking by pints has been changed with vessels of schooner size to allay increasing costs to venues and with encouragement from the state government to curb binge drinking.
In South Australian pubs and clubs, the term "schooner" refers to a glass with a capacity of 285 ml (10 imp fl oz) (known as a "pot" elsewhere in Australia, or a "middy" in New South Wales and Western Australia; these were half an imperial pint pre-metrication).
There is no legal definition of a schooner in Australia,[3] with the volume of beer served depending on the venue. A calibrated 425 ml glass may be used and filled to the brim, resulting in a "schooner" of 375 ml of beer and 50 ml of froth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schooner_(glass)#Australia
LOL Excuse it's early, and in fun mood 6:15 am. So how to make it simple. Umm, i'll put it here as we go .. can we jump steps .. how about search for "difference between American pint and NSW Australian schooner"
Ok, this is a start .. you know what a glass of beer looks like so will leave the images inside .. 5 Beer Glass Sizes in Australia Explained
Scott Purcell, 2 Oct 2020 | Guide
It’s no secret that Australians love their beer. It’s a long and stable relationship that dates back to 1808 when the early convicts decided they had had enough of rum and wanted something better to drink (I think that’s how the story goes). But when it comes to deciding beer sizes, Australia is all over the shop.
You’ll also like:
24 Best Alcohol Delivery Services in Australia
https://manofmany.com/lifestyle/drinks/best-alcohol-delivery-australia
20 Best Australian Ice Creams of All Time Ranked
https://manofmany.com/lifestyle/food/best-australian-ice-creams-of-all-time
The metric system may have taken the country by storm when it was first introduced in 1970, but clearly, no one thought to tell the beermakers and publicans. We’ve ended up in a situation where you need a degree in metrology, with a major in Australian beer sizes, to have any clue what’s going on.
To make sure you don’t embarrass yourself on the next interstate footy trip, it’s important to know how many mls in a schooner, how many mls in a pint and your ponies from your pints. Here’s our guide on the most popular beer sizes Australia has to offer.
Beer sizes Australia
1. Schooner Size – 425 ml
The size of a schooner glass is considered incontrovertible fact in most of the country, measuring in at a respectable and thirst-quenching 425ml. Of course, adopting a universal glass size would make too much sense, so thankfully we have South Australia to ruin what would otherwise be a rare instance of Australian beer bonhomie.
Down there (and nowhere else in the world) 425ml is considered a pint. No wonder they call it the Wine State.
Size: 425ml (~15 fl oz)
State: ACT, NSW, NT, QLD, TAS, VIC, WA
Beer sizes Australia
2. Pint Size – 570 ml
Arguably England’s greatest colonial export, the ol’ pint of beer is the heavyweight of Australian beer glasses. Based on a metric conversion of 20 imperial fluid ounces (approx. 568ml), the pint is the slightly intimidating older brother to the more-popular schooner, but seems to be gaining traction around the country.
It’s also one of the few beer sizes where South Australia almost manages to tow the party line, where it’s known as an imperial pint.
Size: 570ml (~20 fl oz)
States: ACT, NSW, NT, QLD, TAS, VIC, WA
https://manofmany.com/lifestyle/drinks/beer-glass-sizes-in-australia-explained
Ok. Umm as you know we use the British Imperial System and you guys ..
How Big Is a Pint?
This is because a pint in the United Kingdom is bigger than a pint in the United States. The UK pint is 20 fluid ounces, while the US pint fills up 16 fl oz. However, this translation is not that simple, as fluid ounces do not equal one another across the Atlantic. Here is the breakdown of volume between the two countries:
* The British Imperial fluid ounce is equal to 28.413 milliliters, while the US Customary fluid ounce is 29.573 ml.
*The British Imperial pint is 568.261 ml (20 fluid ounces), while the US Customary pint is 473.176 ml (16 fl oz).
* The British Imperial quart is 1.13 liters (40 fl oz), while the US Customary quart is 0.94 L (32 fl oz).
* The British Imperial gallon is 4.54 L (160 fl oz), while the US Customary gallon is 3.78 L (128 fl oz).
Read more at the ANSI Blog: Why a Pint is Bigger in the UK than in the US https://blog.ansi.org/?p=158111
https://blog.ansi.org/2018/06/why-pint-bigger-in-uk-than-in-us-volume/#gref
LOLOL I know i could have made it much simpler, still this is closer to life. And at least you now can find more about Australian ice-cream from the link above.
What's an American pint????
15 fl oz (425 mL) known as a "pint" 20 fl oz (570 mL) known as an "imperial pint"
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=what%27s+an+american+pint+
Ok, IF i read that right, IF an Australian schooner, in most of Australia, is 425 mL and if
that's also the size of an American pint then it looks a schooner in Australia is your pint.
Hmm, IF that's right it's new to me. Something not quite right though - above it says an American pint is "473.176 ml" which is bigger.
Dang, if our schooner was your pint it would have been much easier.
And an Australian pint is bigger at 570 ml.
to here .. one more look for a rough direct comparison .. OK - actually was here at near the beginning up top ..
Australia
In all Australian states other than South Australia, a "schooner" is a 425 ml (15 imp fl oz), or three-quarters of an imperial pint pre-metrication.
It is the most common size in New South Wales, Queensland and the Northern Territory, although it is known in other states. Some hospitality venues in Western Australia are going through a process of "schoonerification", whereby the previous culture of drinking by pints has been changed with vessels of schooner size to allay increasing costs to venues and with encouragement from the state government to curb binge drinking.
In South Australian pubs and clubs, the term "schooner" refers to a glass with a capacity of 285 ml (10 imp fl oz) (known as a "pot" elsewhere in Australia, or a "middy" in New South Wales and Western Australia; these were half an imperial pint pre-metrication).
There is no legal definition of a schooner in Australia,[3] with the volume of beer served depending on the venue. A calibrated 425 ml glass may be used and filled to the brim, resulting in a "schooner" of 375 ml of beer and 50 ml of froth.
Canada
In Canada, a "schooner" refers to a large capacity beer glass. Unlike the Australian schooner, which is smaller than a pint, a Canadian schooner is larger. Although not standardised, the most common size of schooner served in Canadian bars is 33.3 Imp fl oz / 946 ml (32 US fl oz). It is commonly a tankard-shaped glass (dimpled mug shape with handle), rather than a traditional pint glass. It shouldn't be confused with Schooner Lager, which is a regional brand of beer found only in the eastern maritime provinces of Canada.
United States
In most places in the United States, "schooner" refers to the shape of the glass (rounded with a short stem), rather than the capacity. It can range from 18 to 32 US fl oz (532 to 946 ml).
In the Pacific Northwest, "schooner" refers to a smaller size pour, usually 8 to 12 ounces. It's often available off-menu.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schooner_(glass)#Australia
So a schooner in America has a range of some 400ml+ .. 532 to 946 ml .. OUCH. In Australia a schooner is mostly 425 ml.
DANG .. how about .. US liquid pint .... 16 US fl oz .... ˜ 473 mL
And Australian schooner 425 ml, mostly. So your liquid pint would be about 11.3% bigger than our schooner.
I didn't get it clear.
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