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Re: 12yearplan post# 429975

Tuesday, 11/22/2022 6:56:20 PM

Tuesday, November 22, 2022 6:56:20 PM

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Repeat: Seems to me you are just not getting the biologists' beef with Peterson. After all the reading it should be no longer difficult.

To understand the similarities between any two organisms, biologists look back through evolutionary time to their most recent common ancestor. In the case of humans and lobsters, our most recent common ancestor was defined by the remarkable evolutionary innovation of a complete gut — meaning that the mouth and anus are two separate openings (the importance of this morphological novelty is clear when you contemplate the alternative .. https://jellybiologist.com/2018/05/22/jellyfish-dont-throw-up-or-poop-they-throop-they-throop-through-their-manus/ ). The living animal that probably .. http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/363/1496/1493.short .. most closely resembles this ancestor is the acoel .. https://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822(09)00755-6.pdf , a mostly harmless marine worm no bigger than a grain of rice. Acoels’ social interactions are limited to mating — they’re typically hermaphroditic, so each individual acts as both “male” and “female” — or sometimes to cannibalism, if a hungry acoel encounters another small enough to fit in its mouth. I suppose cannibalism is a sort of dominance hierarchy, but acoels don’t engage in the complex displays of aggression seen in lobsters or form social hierarchies like primates. If the common ancestor of humans and lobsters lacked dominance hierarchies (which seems likely, based on what we know about living animals), then our two species’ social behavior evolved independently, and the one can’t inform us about the other.
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That's the crux of it. Peterson chooses the lobster because it fits his view of the human world. Biologists don't see that as legitimate. Their expert views are not simply opinion pieces to be dismissed as illegitimate positions.

Sod knows why you defend Peterson's faulty lobster-so-human logic so adamantly.

It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”

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