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B402 came closest to my initial thought .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=167589164 .

There was .. 5. James Madison (1809-17)

The principal author of the Constitution will forever be known as one of our worst chief executives. As president, Madison launched an ill-conceived preemptive war against superior British forces in Canada, which almost destroyed the nation. The War of 1812 is discussed little in the United States, but it gets more attention in Canadian history books. Given the U.S. preference for the inevitability of Manifest Destiny and the exceptionalism of the Monroe Doctrine, it is little wonder why.

A late F6 (Mark) post, Feb, 2009 - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=35679479

Empire building. Then there was Empire.

Now, Americans are generally tired of Americans being killed fighting wars in other countries so some withdrawal from that kick. Now there is ongoing conflict between the idea of helping others in danger of expansionism by Russia. And China.

There has always been 'do as we way not as we do.' Not so much now but it will always exist. There has always been interference in other countries on behalf of American business. Not so much now but that will always exist to. Now there are more creative technological ways of interference. Protecting American business is seen as in America's interest as, at least in an indirect way, it is.

Russia believes they have a right to invade Ukraine. At least Putin and many Russians do:

What’s Driving Putin’s Ukraine Brinkmanship?
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In speeches, interviews and lengthy articles, President Vladimir V. Putin .. https://www.nytimes.com/topic/person/vladimir-putin .. and his close associates have telegraphed a singular fixation this year on the former Soviet republic. The Kremlin thesis goes that Ukrainians are “one people” with Russians, living in a failing state controlled by Western forces determined to divide and conquer the post-Soviet world.
P - Ukrainians, who ousted a Russia-friendly president in 2014 and are increasingly in favor of binding their country to Western institutions, would largely beg to differ. But Mr. Putin’s conviction finds a receptive ear among many Russians, who see themselves as linked intimately with Ukraine by generations of linguistic, cultural, economic, political and family ties. Now, with a force of 175,000 Russian troops poised to be in position near Ukraine by early next year .. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/04/us/politics/russia-ukraine-biden.html , in what Western officials fear could be a prelude to an invasion, centuries of shared history loom large
p - Mr. Putin’s gambit may be a cold calculus of coercion, backed by signals that the threat of war is real — a way to force President Biden to recognize a Russian sphere of interest in Eastern Europe. Mr. Putin in recent days said Russia would demand “legal guarantees” that Ukraine would not join the NATO alliance or host more Western forces, and he is scheduled to speak to Mr. Biden by videoconference on Tuesday.
P - But to Mr. Putin — and many other Russians — the nearly eight-year-old conflict with Ukraine is not simply about geopolitics; it is about a hurt national psyche, a historical injustice to be set right. One of his former advisers, Gleb O. Pavlovsky, in an interview described the Kremlin’s view of Ukraine as a “trauma wrapped in a trauma” — the dissolution of the Soviet Union coupled with the separation of a nation Russians long viewed as simply an extension of their own.
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Putin has a legitimate fear of Ukraine joining NATO. Even if not, fear of more NATO presence on it's immediate border.

The U.S., still as arguably the strongest country in the world, rightly feels a moral and ethical duty to protect smaller nations under threat.