Wanna waste some time going down a rabbit hole? I ran into Maninfla on RB in '98 after I had foolishly thrown my money into a local O & G gas pipeline co., (forget the symbol, Trans something) that I was positive was going to get me out of debt trading independent of a broker for the first time while going thru' a divorce. Maninfla was the board basher and I was fanatically a 'true believer'. Long story short we became good buds especially after after I discovered I had been taken with an easily identifiable scam. He was an irascible kind of guy, but I was sorry he and Matt had such a falling out. Go deep enough and you'll see our good buddy(who's name shall not be mentioned) weighed in on the flame on the Q & A bd. back in '07 or so. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profilea.aspx?user=1208 So, hold my beer while I do something incredibly stupid again, BYOB.