Ballpark sure, but you addressed Bulls comments not mine or specifically what was in my head when talking about ideals. Instead choosing to pull it in ur orbit ;).
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Ie, hissy fit cuz I called Bull out on his agiprop twisting/(Strawmanboyin') of peoples words to pull a conversation in the direction of his liking and likely away from the points made that are not of his liking or able to be understood.
Anyhow, congratulations on pulling me into that orbit/ those parlor games, the ones I was determined not accede to, with my more than appropriate replies "Nope. What I said". [I'll try harder next time ;]
[For those not following, I commented on the big picture Bull has trouble seeing with all the dramatic events of late. No doubt shocking but arguably par for the course from a GWN perspective ;). I made a simple comment how "ideals" and institutions are still intact. I think Tienanmen Square is a good contrast. System/Regime change was averted and no chance like a snowflake in a messy forum of succeeding. A handful of commando types mixed in a crowd of 20-40k is not a real threat to the hundreds of millions of people that simply wouldn't put up with it. The military, the truly elected, etc,.. - like I said, "Libtard hysteria"