Well, Ike was the first in 1952 and '56 -- I voted for Nixon who lost to Kennedy in 1960 due to alleged fraud by father Joe buying votes in Chicago -- guess you know about that, being there -- but other than that, until apparently now, -- the Supremes will decide the issue for 2020 -- and then we all get to see if the country survives -- glad to be here to see how it comes out