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Friday, July 17, 2020 4:33:06 PM
As you said this was mine - "The way i read it to be "woke" doesn't mean you are wishing for anything."
To your "That wasn't what I mean't."
I agree with your - "Every country has their heroes but along with them come the skeletons in the closet."
totally. What you said there goes without saying.
To your - "So be careful what you wish for if you want to join the woke or cancel culture crowd."
suggests to me i understood exactly what you meant. By your emphasis there i take it, as i did earlier, that you saw dangers in my saying i was happy to claim to be "woke", while, again, that only meant to me that i was happy to be seen/to feel, to be aware of social and racial justice issues.
To your Wikipedia link - "Woke (/'wo?k/) as a political term of African American origin refers to a perceived awareness of issues concerning social justice and racial justice.[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#:~:text=Woke%20(%2F%CB%88wo%CA%8Ak,continuing%20awareness%20of%20these%20issues
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=156949047
to be aware of those issues. No more.
Farther down there, this works too
"Contemporary
... in essence to always be awake, or to be ever vigilant.[14] David Stovall said: "Erykah brought it alive in popular culture. She means not being placated, not being anesthetized."[15]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Contemporary
Even farther down again, it works
"Modern usage
By the late 2010s, "woke" had taken to indicate "healthy paranoia, especially about issues of racial and political justice""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Modern_usage
A healthy paranoia is good, sometimes it's justified.
Again i agree totally with your
"Obviously it is a balancing act to accept the good with the bad and reconcile them."
This article i feel, maybe, may be of some relevance to your "Be careful what you wish for" concern:
How the word ‘woke’ was weaponised by the right
The term is meant to denote an attentiveness to important issues. But the likes of Laurence Fox and Toby Young have begun using it in a very different way
Steve Rose
@steverose7
Tue 21 Jan 2020 18.00 AEDT
Warring with wokeness ... Laurence Fox (left) and Toby Young. Composite: Ken McKay/ ITV/Rex/Shutterstock
Like “politically correct” before it, the word “woke” has come to connote the opposite of what it means. Technically, going by the Merriam-Webster dictionary’s definition, woke means “aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)”, but today we are more likely to see it being used as a stick with which to beat people who aspire to such values, often wielded by those who don’t recognise how un-woke they are, or are proud of the fact.
Laurence Fox nailed his colours to the latter mast this weekend, doubling down on his defence of the privileged white male on last week’s Question Time .. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jan/18/question-time-clash-lecturer-tells-of-hate-mail .. to a Sunday Times article under the banner “Why I won’t date ‘woke’ women”. Toby Young piled in, applauding how Fox was “terrorising the Wokerati”, while the Sun last weekend branded Harry and Meghan “the oppressive King and Queen of Woke”.
For those who would broadly consider themselves woke, the word has been weaponised against them. But the Fox/Young brigade often claim the same.
The origins of woke, in this context – as forged by African American communities – dates back at least to the 60s, but its mainstream ubiquity is a recent development. Fuelled by black musicians, social media and the #BlackLivesMatter movement, the term entered the Oxford English Dictionary only in 2017, by which time it had become as much a fashionable buzzword as a set of values. Some of those who didn’t keep up with the trend felt left behind: if you didn’t know the meaning of woke, you weren’t.
Rather than rejecting the concept of wokeness outright, today’s detractors often claim they are rejecting the word as a signifier of pretentiousness and “cultural elitism”. However, as Fox and others have shown, it is as much to do with the issues of racial and social justice. Criticising “woke culture” has become a way of claiming victim status for yourself rather than acknowledging that more deserving others hold that status. It has gone from a virtue signal to a dog whistle. The language has been successfully co-opted – but as long as the underlying injustices remain, new words will emerge to describe them.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/shortcuts/2020/jan/21/how-the-word-woke-was-weaponised-by-the-right
To your "That wasn't what I mean't."
I agree with your - "Every country has their heroes but along with them come the skeletons in the closet."
totally. What you said there goes without saying.
To your - "So be careful what you wish for if you want to join the woke or cancel culture crowd."
suggests to me i understood exactly what you meant. By your emphasis there i take it, as i did earlier, that you saw dangers in my saying i was happy to claim to be "woke", while, again, that only meant to me that i was happy to be seen/to feel, to be aware of social and racial justice issues.
To your Wikipedia link - "Woke (/'wo?k/) as a political term of African American origin refers to a perceived awareness of issues concerning social justice and racial justice.[1]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#:~:text=Woke%20(%2F%CB%88wo%CA%8Ak,continuing%20awareness%20of%20these%20issues
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=156949047
to be aware of those issues. No more.
Farther down there, this works too
"Contemporary
... in essence to always be awake, or to be ever vigilant.[14] David Stovall said: "Erykah brought it alive in popular culture. She means not being placated, not being anesthetized."[15]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Contemporary
Even farther down again, it works
"Modern usage
By the late 2010s, "woke" had taken to indicate "healthy paranoia, especially about issues of racial and political justice""
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#Modern_usage
A healthy paranoia is good, sometimes it's justified.
Again i agree totally with your
"Obviously it is a balancing act to accept the good with the bad and reconcile them."
This article i feel, maybe, may be of some relevance to your "Be careful what you wish for" concern:
How the word ‘woke’ was weaponised by the right
The term is meant to denote an attentiveness to important issues. But the likes of Laurence Fox and Toby Young have begun using it in a very different way
Steve Rose
@steverose7
Tue 21 Jan 2020 18.00 AEDT
Warring with wokeness ... Laurence Fox (left) and Toby Young. Composite: Ken McKay/ ITV/Rex/Shutterstock
Like “politically correct” before it, the word “woke” has come to connote the opposite of what it means. Technically, going by the Merriam-Webster dictionary’s definition, woke means “aware of and actively attentive to important facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)”, but today we are more likely to see it being used as a stick with which to beat people who aspire to such values, often wielded by those who don’t recognise how un-woke they are, or are proud of the fact.
Laurence Fox nailed his colours to the latter mast this weekend, doubling down on his defence of the privileged white male on last week’s Question Time .. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/jan/18/question-time-clash-lecturer-tells-of-hate-mail .. to a Sunday Times article under the banner “Why I won’t date ‘woke’ women”. Toby Young piled in, applauding how Fox was “terrorising the Wokerati”, while the Sun last weekend branded Harry and Meghan “the oppressive King and Queen of Woke”.
For those who would broadly consider themselves woke, the word has been weaponised against them. But the Fox/Young brigade often claim the same.
The origins of woke, in this context – as forged by African American communities – dates back at least to the 60s, but its mainstream ubiquity is a recent development. Fuelled by black musicians, social media and the #BlackLivesMatter movement, the term entered the Oxford English Dictionary only in 2017, by which time it had become as much a fashionable buzzword as a set of values. Some of those who didn’t keep up with the trend felt left behind: if you didn’t know the meaning of woke, you weren’t.
Rather than rejecting the concept of wokeness outright, today’s detractors often claim they are rejecting the word as a signifier of pretentiousness and “cultural elitism”. However, as Fox and others have shown, it is as much to do with the issues of racial and social justice. Criticising “woke culture” has become a way of claiming victim status for yourself rather than acknowledging that more deserving others hold that status. It has gone from a virtue signal to a dog whistle. The language has been successfully co-opted – but as long as the underlying injustices remain, new words will emerge to describe them.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/shortcuts/2020/jan/21/how-the-word-woke-was-weaponised-by-the-right
It was Plato who said, “He, O men, is the wisest, who like Socrates, knows that his wisdom is in truth worth nothing”
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