LEE KRAMER'S ROOM: With Views

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When I listen to the rhetoric of Bernie and Liz I don’t see a way they can back Bloomberg.

They've made it pretty clear that they'll support whoever is the candidate. Bernie supporters are another matter. They're in their own cult. And although he's not my choice this time around, I personally like Bernie's policies but his supporters are not much different than trump's.

TPM: New Polls Suggest Dems Should Chill the F Out

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/new-polls-suggest-dems-should-chill-the-f-out

By Josh Marshall

February 10, 2020 3:46 p.m.

Two important new polls have come out this afternoon. They’re clarifying on a number of grounds. The first is that President Trump’s rise is the polls is at best overstated. Quinnipiac puts him at 43% approval, on the high side for that poll but the same as their previous three polls back into December. Monmouth has him at 44%. Their previous three polls had him at 43%. Just moments ago Yougov released a new batch of polls which put Trump at 41%, basically where he’s been since forever. (I put more stock in Quinnipiac and Monmouth but it’s another important data point.) Take this all together and they suggest Trump is in a relatively strong position based on where he’s been over the last three years. But there’s little evidence here of some game-changing move. Certainly nothing like the 49% Gallup found last week, which remains a distant outlier.

Quinnipiac has head to head match ups with Democrats. All the top candidates beat Trump by significant margins. Bloomberg 51-42, Sanders 51-43, Biden 50-43. There’s a lot of information that tells us that President Trump can definitely win reelection. But these numbers all point to an incumbent who has an uphill climb at best. And at least for now there’s little evidence suggesting a really different situation than we’ve had to date.

They also certainly suggest that if you think Sanders is a weak general election candidate that must be based on the predicted effects of attacks that have yet to happen. Because 51-43 is pretty solid.

The White House, in a moment of fragmentation and disappointment for Democrats, is trying to further demoralize the opposition. These numbers suggest that, technically speaking, Democrats should chill the fuck out.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287497320

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