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Friday, 12/28/2018 1:16:03 PM

Friday, December 28, 2018 1:16:03 PM

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More sleeze from Frankie Fruge. On their Facebook Reviews page

Frankie Fruge Patrick Price Please by all means show ME one penny we have gotten from Cyclone or any investor and actually used that penny to put in our own bank account. If Mr Chuk had to go thru an SEC audit like we do you would find many skeletons in that closet but since his lawyers insisted the settlement had to be secret I guess you will never know. Where do you think someone on military disability got the wherewithal to do that? You guys just crack me up with your twisted scenarios totally avoiding the documented truths as written and explained by SEC outside auditors which we pay for and we don't have too. But I might as well talk to a wall than to people who like fiction rather than documented proof.


The story was actually that Chuk Williams set out to build a steam engine powered car to set the world speed record. Harry Schoell and Frankie Fruge heard about this and offered Chuk a 100 hp Mark 5 engine. Chuk believed that they would deliver a working engine as they promised and he built his car specifically to fit the Cyclone engine.

As part of the sponsorship, Cyclone was to build a body for Chuk's car. The car and body was to be property of Chuk Williams.

Chuk built the car and delivered it to Cyclone for them to fit the engine. But there was no engine. After years of delay and broken promises, Chuk found another steam engine, one that actually worked, and gave up on Cyclone.

Harry Schoell had a temper tantrum and had lawyers sue Chuk claiming he stole the car body from Harry. Chuk has limited means and couldn't afford the legal fight, so he gave back the body. Chuk demanded the settlement stay secret? Not likely. More like Harry Schoell and Frankie Fruge know the contents of the settlement would make them look even worse than the liars and swindlers they are.

But Chuk Williams ran his car at Bonneville in 2012 even without a body:



Also as part of Harry's temper tantrum he paid to have a new car built by a professional race car building company and hired Nelson Hoyos for a year to be in charge of the "Performance Division". Cyclone did a lot of bragging about what they were gonna do, set records of 200, 300 and even 400 mph by the end of 2013. Hoyos said in one article that Cyclone was spending half a million dollars on the project.

How'd they do? Same as every other Cyclone claim ever made. It's a few days away from 2019 and the expensive super-duper car that investors paid dearly for hasn't moved one inch under the power of a Cyclone engine, and never will.

Harry Schoell even paid to rent the Space Shuttle runway at Kennedy Space Center to do record runs. He was inviting people on the steam car club board to spectate. He promised people there the results of dyno testing of his "beast of an engine", then issued a stream of excuses instead. Testing was obviously a dismal failure.

One of the posters there had the best line: "Stop telling us what it's GONNA do, tell us what it has DONE". What's it done? Nothing other than spin a shaft with no load.

They set up a slick website which is now gone, but there's a copy at the Internet Archive at https://web.archive.org/web/20161008022540/http://uslandsteamrecord.com/ The sponsors page at https://web.archive.org/web/20161031072334/http://uslandsteamrecord.com/partners.html tells the story. In 2010-11 they had real sponsors providing real money, but these weren't Cyclone's sponsors, they were Chuk Williams' sponsors. They were giving him money to build his car.

You can go through the logos of the "corporate sponsors" after 2011 and see the same pattern. Sponsor #2 was providing the orange peel oil for fuel. Sponsor #3 idigify.com apparently was someone who worked a short time designing logos. (Maybe they attached a flag pennant to the Cyclone logo and called that their sponsorship.) Sponsor #4 was Precision CNC, the shop in Ohio Cyclone was paying to build engine parts. Sponsor #5 was Driven-to-Win, Hoyos' drag racing school. Sponsor #6 was Steampower.com, a small blog, also gone now. Some of the rest probably gave small things or discounts, e.g., perhaps some car wax from Rain Magic.

2012 and after the sponsors were Cyclone employees and people who didn't give anything substantial. For instance, Ron Main and George Poteet own the Speed Demon land speed record car, which holds records over 400 mph. They "allowed" Cyclone to pattern their car after the shape of their car. That "contribution" was spun by Cyclone into those two leaders in land speed racing being "sponsors" of Cyclone. Similarly you see Nelson Hoyos and his wife as "sponsors", even though they were being paid to work on this car.

Typical Frankie Fruge intentional misrepresentation to scam investors.

In 2014 even Schoell and Fruge were no longer "sponsors", and after that nothing.

Frankie has been claiming that Cyclone never paid for the car, that "sponsors" paid for it. (Just like she is now claiming that Cyclone never received any money from investors buying stock, and that Harry Schoell has never received any money from Cyclone regardless of the fact he owns Schoell Marine where many millions of investors' money disappeared without a trace.) But here's a shot from the last video of the car in Feb 2015



The top photo was from the end of 2012 and the bottom from 2015. Yes, "sponsors" paid the half million for the car and "Cyclone Performance Division", but were so shy they never wanted to put their names on the car itself. Cyclone investors never squandered that half million to satisfy a Harry Schoell temper tantrum, says Frankie.

Of course, I could easily be proven wrong on all of this if Cyclone would simply do a public demonstration of their wonderful race car moving under the power of a Cyclone engine. Or Frankie's expensive custom speedboat, that also cost investors dearly, zipping around in the water.

But neither of these demonstrations will ever occur. The Cyclone engine simply doesn't work well enough to power either the car or boat.

Now we are just hours away from the promised delivery date of those wonderful new Mark 10 engines. And what is Frankie doing? Trying to slime someone who has actually made working steam cars.

More of the sleeze Cyclone has come to represent.

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