jerrylev I hope you (and I assume hotmeat refers to same type of potential) are right As so far the only money I see is in the LT financials And yes the LT won 1 or 2 Tax Refund cases to add some cash but best I can tell there are no publicly noted future inflows As always - I hope that we get more than what I see and will gladly say I am wrong all the way to the bank Beneficial interests in off the books safe harbor instruments is the only off the books money I consider a possibility and I give that 50-50 at best