I have been in tcel for 4 years. at 0ne point i had 150 million share i still hold 115 million. so i am in it all the way i have seen my value go from $40,000 to $200,000 and all the way down to 15,000. i may look like a big player but i am not i just figure it was a good move 4 years ago and it is finally paying off some