Personally, I don't know and don't care. I'll let you research that.
My point was to show the huge pieces of credibility and association of legitimacy that are associated with Loudon Owen since some were trying to discredit him and his achievements because of some failures that he had in the past. Heck, we all have failed at some point in time in the world, even the greats as I had posted as some examples.
Some insinuating that him being here as part of ANDI/Utopya is a bad thing when it is an outstanding thing for him to be here in my opinion.