Bah.. If cert is all you have I guess that may be better then saying IOU. Maybe there isn't many certs out there. Yesterday my order for 1 mil @.0005 was just a plain order that didn't get filled. This morning I have 1 mil @ .0004 and still nothing. I callled ameritrade and they said the orders had been forwarded and that normally indicated the lack of shared available.Does that mean no shares --OR-- the MM are just holding and just waiting. Things don't change..... Still waiting and holding. G/B .. clem