I hesitate to use the word real after several years in Pennyland but yes if Hangzhou is a elaborate concoction they are fully committed to it. Corresponding sp boost holding support. Cardinal 8k’d debt repayment with some of the first tranche (apparently). I don’t know why it’s so hard to have conclusive proof with these companies if they have nothing to hide. https://ceo.ca/@marketwired/cardinal-resources-receives-initial-11-million-tranche-equity-investment-at-010-per-share-from-asian-partner-hsvw I think Cardinal needed the Chinese once EXIM broke down. 51% ownership but yes why not just steal the idea.