No it wasn't definitive. IR Mgr said some of the 2017 revenue might show 4Q 2016. He also said that of the 2.5 million only 200 - 300k net. That is of course if the SLA transpires as they claim. Thats still in the air as well. IR stated they will not PR till 100% certain because they do not want another Timken mess. Bill PR'd a Timken deal that didnt really exist and TIMKEN denied the PO as well as giving TPAC permission to use their name in a PR.